Re: List Management for 2020/21
Perfect. This means we can sell off pick 26 for multiple later picks (for example Hawthorn who have 45, 46 & 49) and we'll more than cover a bid at pick 1.
So not only do we get access to one of the best kids, we also get to exploit the old loophole to do it. *chef's kiss*
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Wow. Huge result for us if we want to keep all of Cavarra, Hayes & Duryea. Usually a last second rule change hurts us, but this helps big time if the club wants these guys.
There's 7 players off the main list. There's 3 players on the main list. So there's 4 vacancies with a likely reduction of two p, shrinking list sizes. So right now we have likely two picks, but get to use the equivalent point to Pick 16 without having the spots open. That's massive.
So right now you'd think it's JUH & MacPherson as our two picks. I wonder if we want another pick though.
BAD, please leave the AFEL rule manipulation alone on this one... :D
Re: List Management for 2020/21
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comrade
Perfect. This means we can sell off pick 26 for multiple later picks (for example Hawthorn who have 45, 46 & 49) and we'll more than cover a bid at pick 1.
So not only do we get access to one of the best kids, we also get to exploit the old loophole to do it. *chef's kiss*
I wonder if we can (allowed to) trade juicy picks this year, for say equal draft points even, but also get a future pick? Manipulate the hell out of the rule for this year AND strengthen our draft hand next year.
Re: List Management for 2020/21
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bulldogtragic
Wow. Huge result for us if we want to keep all of Cavarra, Hayes & Duryea. Usually a last second rule change hurts us, but this helps big time if the club wants these guys.
There's 7 players off the main list. There's 3 players on the main list. So there's 4 vacancies with a likely reduction of two p, shrinking list sizes. So right now we have likely two picks, but get to use the equivalent point to Pick 16 without having the spots open. That's massive.
So right now you'd think it's JUH & MacPherson as our two picks. I wonder if we want another pick though.
BAD, please leave the AFEL rule manipulation alone on this one... :D
Seems likely we knew this yesterday when we announced just the 3 delistings. My money is on us keeping the other 5 players not officially re-signed now and just taking JUH and MacPherson as you say and perhaps Raak as a category B.
I guess if you are going to have a boring draft at least pick up the best player in it.
Re: List Management for 2020/21
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Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
Wow. Huge result for us if we want to keep all of Cavarra, Hayes & Duryea. Usually a last second rule change hurts us, but this helps big time if the club wants these guys.
There's 7 players off the main list. There's 3 players on the main list. So there's 4 vacancies with a likely reduction of two p, shrinking list sizes. So right now we have likely two picks, but get to use the equivalent point to Pick 16 without having the spots open. That's massive.
So right now you'd think it's JUH & MacPherson as our two picks. I wonder if we want another pick though.
BAD, please leave the AFEL rule manipulation alone on this one... :D
Haha, I won't. :D
BTW, it is on field rules that I am passionate about not changing
Re: List Management for 2020/21
I would still delist Hayes and take an extra selection to the draft.
Re: List Management for 2020/21
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comrade
I would still delist Hayes and take an extra selection to the draft.
Hard to imagine him getting a game next year. Amazed he made the cut so far
Re: List Management for 2020/21
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comrade
I would still delist Hayes and take an extra selection to the draft.
Nothing against Hayes but we do have too many of his like I front of him
What position would we look at , we have a great list , maybe a full back type ?
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ledge
Nothing against Hayes but we do have too many of his like I front of him
What position would we look at , we have a great list , maybe a full back type ?
Not sure how posters continually say we have a great list?
We finished middle of the road the last two years. Finished in no mans land.
Our forward line and back line is average and our midfield is above average but has it troubles.
Re: List Management for 2020/21
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azabob
Not sure how posters continually say we have a great list?
We finished middle of the road the last two years. Finished in no mans land.
Our forward line and back line is average and our midfield is above average but has it troubles.
The list has potential to be very good but I agree with you, lots of gaps and we're relying on plenty of ifs, buts and maybes.
IF Jamarra becomes a star.
IF English reaches his potential.
IF Young or Gardner can become AFL standard key defenders.
IF Treloar settles into our midfield mix.
IF Bruce can return to his pre-2020 form.
etc etc
MAYBE we become a true premiership contender again.
NONE of those are givens.
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Our list has always looked good on paper and during the offseason that's all we remember as there are no games to remind us just how average and inconsistent some players can be.
Re: List Management for 2020/21
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azabob
Not sure how posters continually say we have a great list?
We finished middle of the road the last two years. Finished in no mans land.
Our forward line and back line is average and our midfield is above average but has it troubles.
It felt like keeping Dunkley somehow made us better. Your points are valid.
Re: List Management for 2020/21
During the year the main concerns on our list were:
1. Natural pressuring/crumbing small foward - Haven't addressed
2. An experienced ruck to help English - Tick
3. A KPD to go on the giants to free up Keath - Haven't addressed
4. Speedy mid - Tick
So we've addressed 2 out of 4 and 1 of those only because a certain player fell in our lap. Let's face it, if we didn't get Treloar, our trade period is extremely underwhelming.
Re: List Management for 2020/21
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bulldogsthru&thru
During the year the main concerns on our list were:
1. Natural pressuring/crumbing small foward - Haven't addressed
3. A KPD to go on the giants to free up Keath - Haven't addressed
So we've addressed 2 out of 4 and 1 of those only because a certain player fell in our lap. Let's face it, if we didn't get Treloar, our trade period is extremely underwhelming.
I'm still hopeful that we have players on the list that can make a good fist at both these roles.
1. I wouldn't be surprised if Garcia jumps out over the pre-season and puts his hand up for this role. I get Dahl vibes from him.
2. Young is still...young...and has the frame to go with the big guys. Needs to fill out and have a monster pre-season but I hope we back him in and pump some games into him.
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comrade
I'm still hopeful that we have players on the list that can make a good fist at both these roles.
1. I wouldn't be surprised if Garcia jumps out over the pre-season and puts his hand up for this role. I get Dahl vibes from him.
2. Young is still...young...and has the frame to go with the big guys. Needs to fill out and have a monster pre-season but I hope we back him in and pump some games into him.
I'm hopeful on those two but also mindful not to place too much hope on a kid who hasn't played a single AFL game and another who has been in the system a few years now yet can't get a game in the seniors ahead of Gardner. I do like the look of Garcia and if we can add him and Jamarra to the forward line, suddenly it doesn't look so slow.
It'd also be nice if Weightman can take a leap. I didn't really like what I saw this season but he does look to have that natural goal sense. We're certainly not light on for forward options. We just don't really have anyone decent. We are however quite light on down back. I worry if Keath goes down with an injury we are severly exposed down back. Moreso now with Trengove off the list.