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Originally Posted by
bornadog
I bet Jee already has one
If he was a true team player he'd order one for all of us.
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Why did people in the 1990s not just simply watch the NBA
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Bulldog Revolution
You're losing money by not buying that.
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Happy Days
Why did people in the 1990s not just simply watch the NBA
We did. But only the NBL had Phil Smyth and Ray Borner.
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jeemak
We did. But only the NBL had Phil Smyth and Ray Borner.
Dean Utoff
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jeemak
We did. But only the NBL had Phil Smyth and Ray Borner.
Larry Sengstock
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GG here is the evidence.
He was out of contract with the Bulldogs, who had reportedly offered him $1.3 million for three years (around $433k per year), and were ultimately unable to keep him at the Whitten Oval.
Eade coached the Dogs in 2011 before stepping down late in the season, not long before Ward was whisked away to western Sydney after just four seasons and 60 games in the red, white and blue.
The ex-coach describes it as ?bad management? that the club lost Ward who will play his 300th AFL game when the Giants meet Essendon on Saturday evening.
Eade indicated it was a shame that Ward, who grew up in the western suburbs of Melbourne and played junior footy for Spotswood, did not end up a one-club player with the Doggies.
?He?s been fantastic. His courage, his unflinching eye on the footy no matter which way the ball was coming, his hardness at it,? Eade said of Ward on SEN?s Sportsday.
?He was a good kid. Really it was bad that we lost him, it was really bad management at the time that he was able to go.
?Someone low-balled him a lot to his manager. He didn?t really want to go. I think he asked for a little bit more, about $30,000 a year or something, it wasn?t a lot.
?All of a sudden GWS, whether his manager mentioned something to GWS, came over the top and blew everything out of the park.
?We shouldn?t have got to that stage. It?s unfortunate (that he left the Bulldogs).
?He?s a really good lad, he?s had a fantastic career. He?s had a few injuries but it?s a testament, not only to his ability, but his mental and physical toughness to get where he is.?
Eade admits he was angry that the Dogs allowed the homegrown product to walk, referencing it as one of a few poor list management decisions the club made at the time.
?Yes, I was (furious),? he added.
?There were a couple of others that were nearly the same thing, trying to low-ball them. We nearly lost Brian Lake at one stage which was similar, before people intervened.
?There were a few bad decisions being made at that particular time, Jarrod Harbrow was another.
?You try to low-ball them too much, the managers are smarter and they go, ?Hang on, they don?t value you enough?. They?re the words that get spoken and they start looking somewhere else.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/05/...ecome-a-giant/
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So Gowers and Rourke Smith kicked two each and McComb got 31 possessions at Port Melbourne as they defeated Coburg by 32 points.
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Originally Posted by
azabob
GG here is the evidence.
He was out of contract with the Bulldogs, who had reportedly offered him $1.3 million for three years (around $433k per year), and were ultimately unable to keep him at the Whitten Oval.
He didn?t really want to go. I think he asked for a little bit more, about $30,000 a year or something
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What a bloody stuff up - $30k
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Originally Posted by
azabob
?There were a few bad decisions being made at that particular time, Jarrod Harbrow was another.
Verifies what I said on WOOF at the time
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Originally Posted by
bornadog
What a bloody stuff up - $30k
Verifies what I said on WOOF at the time
Bloody Fantasia!
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Originally Posted by
bornadog
What a bloody stuff up - $30k
Verifies what I said on WOOF at the time
I can't believe we lost Ward for 30 K a year. He is exactly the type of player we need now. In hindsight, if he stayed and got a premiership in 2016, that would have been worth it.
Consistent stuff up to also lose Harbrow and some other players.
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This sounds ominous though :
?All of a sudden GWS, whether his manager mentioned something to GWS, came over the top and blew everything out of the park
Is 30k enough for Cal to be pissed off enough to leave? Something doesn't add up here.
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Grantysghost
This sounds ominous though :
?All of a sudden GWS, whether his manager mentioned something to GWS, came over the top and blew everything out of the park
Is 30k enough for Cal to be pissed off enough to leave? Something doesn't add up here.
We offered 433k then added another 30k. GWS offered him $800k
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bornadog
We offered 433k then added another 30k. GWS offered him $800k
Yeah, that's by point. No chance.
I hear the story is he would have stayed for 465k.
Seems odd on every level.
Don't doubt the Eade/BT story. I just find it all insane!
I guess the time between our initial offer and theirs may make it clearer to me. With Sheedy involved i think Cal was probably on the radar of GWS.
Crazy period.
Fkn sheedy
Contract negotiations with the Bulldogs were fraught. The club preyed, in part, on his loyalty. But the offer over five years was scarcely half of the reported $4 million over five seasons Ward was offered to head north to join a club considered the AFL’s greatest gamble.
A car ride through Sydney with league legend Kevin Sheedy, who coached the inaugural Giants, helped to seal the deal as he considered his future in footy aged just 21.
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bornadog
We offered 433k then added another 30k. GWS offered him $800k
They aren't the figures I heard.
Essentially if a revised offer had have been made within 4 or even 6 weeks he and his manager would have signed on quick smart.
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Originally Posted by
GVGjr
They aren't the figures I heard.
Essentially if a revised offer had have been made within 4 or even 6 weeks he and his manager would have signed on quick smart.
So GWS weren't in the picture here G?
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Originally Posted by
GVGjr
They aren't the figures I heard.
Essentially if a revised offer had have been made within 4 or even 6 weeks he and his manager would have signed on quick smart.
According to this article they are:
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/05/...ecome-a-giant/
Former Western Bulldogs coach Rodney Eade was furious that the club allowed Callan Ward to leave for GWS back in 2011.
Ward, who was 21 at the time, made the move to the AFL’s newest club on a five-year deal worth up to $4 million (or as much as $800,000 a year).
He was out of contract with the Bulldogs, who had reportedly offered him $1.3 million for three years (around $433k per year), and were ultimately unable to keep him at the Whitten Oval.
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Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
So GWS weren't in the picture here G?
No, the first offer was way unders and the manger frustrated with the lack of a response from both Fantasia and Eade started testing the market. Had our revised offer come earlier then Ward would have signed.
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Originally Posted by
GVGjr
No, the first offer was way unders and the manger frustrated with the lack of a response from both Fantasia and Eade started testing the market. Had our revised offer come earlier then Ward would have signed.
Sigh. What a fk up.
My understanding was Sheedy was into him for a while, however you learned gents have made it pretty clear.
Thanks, woof is the place for the facts.
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Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
Sigh. What a fk up.
My understanding was Sheedy was into him for a while, however you learned gents have made it pretty clear.
Thanks, woof is the place for the facts.
His dad was a mad Essendon supporter, so with our lack of urgency ol' Whiskey Nose would have gotten right into them.
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Ed Barlow has gone to the hawks as the psychologist.
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ledge
Ed Barlow has gone to the hawks as the psychologist.
Sedat has entered the room
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ledge
Ed Barlow has gone to the hawks as the psychologist.
Well. That's one I bet he didn't see coming.
Oh wait you said psychologist.
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Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
Sigh. What a fk up.
My understanding was Sheedy was into him for a while, however you learned gents have made it pretty clear.
Thanks, woof is the place for the facts.
Yeah it sucks, if it came down to us and GWS then he'd have probably ended up going with the one that offered more money but if we hadn't stuffed around to begin with then it probably wouldn't have even reached that stage.
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Originally Posted by
EasternWest
Well. That's one I bet he didn't see coming.
Oh wait you said psychologist.
He's already won their time trial
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GVGjr
It's a bit complicated and there were issues with Eades and Fantasia ability to work together. Their relationship had soured.
We initially made a low-ball offer which was rejected by Wards management and after a few weeks with no response from the club Ward let Eade know of the impasse. By the time we came back with a vastly superior and revised offer GWS had weighed in with their mega offer.
I wouldn't be so certain that Ward was ever going to sign with us.
There seems to be a fair bit of post-decision blaming of Fantasia, and he probably deserves some of the blame, Eade probably does also, but it also seemed very much that the AFL had decided Ward was going to be at GWS and paid accordingly.
Harbrow cashed in financially also - and surely Eade had the signoff on Sherman - clubs dont generally take senior players without the senior coaches stamp of approval.
Both players missed out on being premiership players with us
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EasternWest
Well. That's one I bet he didn't see coming.
Oh wait you said psychologist.
List clogging psychologist.
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200 games for Jake Stringer tonight.
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azabob
200 games for Jake Stringer tonight.
My new favourite player. Unintentional comedy legend.
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Happy Days
My new favourite player. Unintentional comedy legend.
lol. Seriously would still love to have him - he seems like he is in a good space.
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Contract year put in 20 min a game instead of the usual 15 min.
He might have kicked 3 but gave back 2 within a minute in the second.
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azabob
200 games for Jake Stringer tonight.
How does the father and sons work with his kids?
I see he has played 110 games for the drug cheats, only 89 games for us. Do preseason games count ?
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macca
How does the father and sons work with his kids?
I see he has played 110 games for the drug cheats, only 89 games for us. Do preseason games count ?
nope. must be 100 games
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Former Footscray Bulldogs Hugo Brommell has been putting together a pretty solid season in the VFL for Coburg. He's someone that I felt was talented but probably needed to move on as he's the type of player that needs to play primarily onball.
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What did everyone think of lipinski of Friday night?
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ReLoad
What did everyone think of lipinski of Friday night?
I thought he was ok, but made a lot of mistakes and turned the ball over several times.
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ReLoad
What did everyone think of lipinski of Friday night?
The same guy he's always been. Nice disposal but kind of soft, kind of slow. Great depth for Collingwood given their injuries and would have him back but kind of happy with Gallager/Sanders/Garcia getting time instead
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ReLoad
What did everyone think of lipinski of Friday night?
Decent player that's easy not to notice, doesn't really make his team any better.
Nice guy, dreamy and I wish him luck but we've not lost much.
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ReLoad
What did everyone think of lipinski of Friday night?
He was pretty good, playing that hff - > mid role. He's a clean player, very neat.
Overall ok nothing amazing. Lacks a bit of urgency.
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ReLoad
What did everyone think of lipinski of Friday night?
Same as he ever was, does some nice things and is skilled but when the game is on the line he can't or won't get near it