A genuine KPF who is under contract. I think we'll have to pony up to get him.
I'd expect a deal to get done quickly as the Saints will use the pick(s) for other deals.
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Yes he is better, but does he make them redundant?
I think the difference between his output and Lloyd or Dales output is of less consequence to us than the difference between a forward that can offer something we don't have vs our current setup. Getting him because he is a free agent would be like us recruiting an inside mid as a free agent and finding it does very little to improve our team.
GCS getting 1 & 20 looks like stuff around our trading a fair bit.
One of the options was a pick trade of Pick 12 for Adelaide's Picks 21 & 26.
Assuming Ellis & Tomlinson compo is end of first round with the GCS picks is now around Pick 13 for Adelaides Pick 25 & 30. Which is less tempting over yesterday's offering when it was 12 for 21 & 26. Both 25 & 30 probably get used on Keath & Bruce with our next moved back from Pick 30 to Pick 34.
The Keath option direct was Pick 12 for 21 to Adelaide - that's now - Pick 13 for Pick 25 & Keath. Pick 25 on Bruce. Pick 34 our first pick.
Our picks 41, 46 & 49 (add in Elliott compo, so that's five picks shuffled) - now is - 46, 50 & 54 which because of the lowering in draft points attached might make things more difficult for us, or have to include all three in a draft points based trade with say Freo. It's about 820 points and Freo would want at least that for a 2020 2nd rounder.
Teams pushed back like Melbourne, Saints & North have a fair bigger hurt factor being pushed back in both rounds. But this is our clubs contribution to GCS being turned into a viable club.
Are we pushing hard to see if we can land Sam Gray?
Lake played 20 games the year he was traded, 5 the year before, full seasons the years prior. Bruce played 22 this year and 5 last year. Very similar history there. Bruce can also walk in a years time and the Saints seem happy enough for him to go so they can invest other assets elsewhere.
I think the scenarios are remarkably compatible and Lake was probably a better player than Bruce if we're being honest. Lake was valued at pick 32 in the points calculator. Crameri was traded for pick 27 (IIRC). I feel like that's the range that's fair. 25 or lower is us being overly generous.
One factor though is Lake was a bit older. 29 or 30 maybe? So that certainly reduces the value for sure.
The age is only 1 or 2 years different. I feel KPFs tend to go for a bit more, and Bruce is desperately wanting out it seems mor a case of our offer being an increase on his current contract.
Having said that, I'd be surprised if this on drags on as the Saints have a lot to get done this year.