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I?m not sure I would be calling a draftee Stringer like.
That kid has a budding career . Fat, unfit, injured, flying in Feb and ends up playing around 100 games in ten years and mostly very mediocre except for about ten of them. Also gets traded due to his lack of professionalism.
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BAD needs to be put through the spanking machine
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ledge
I?m not sure I would be calling a draftee Stringer like.
That kid has a budding career . Fat, unfit, injured, flying in Feb and ends up playing around 100 games in ten years and mostly very mediocre except for about ten of them. Also gets traded due to his lack of professionalism.
He was also an All Australian at age 23 with 56 goals and kicked 42 in a premiership year when off the ball a little. Even in 2016 he was bordering elite after being absolutely elite the year prior.
In 2021 he was averaging 2.2 goals a game at 16.4 disposals, which is also bloody awesome.
Whilst he hasn't exactly lived up to expectations due to the amount of promise he had early on, he's just eleven games shy of two hundred which is pretty bloody good. And while I get that's not where his potential suggested he might have ended up by now, it's not like it's shithouse.
As much as anything else Jake outside of his own personal issues towards the game is a victim of hype from bogan dickheads in the media like BT etc. who called him the package when he was on the way up without really looking into his game closely.
I reckon it's almost time to lay off him. He is what he is.
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How could you possibly lay off someone with a big Wookie on their chest that just invites ridicule.
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Because hes a Bulldogs premiership player?
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He was also an All Australian at age 23 with 56 goals and kicked 42 in a premiership year when off the ball a little. Even in 2016 he was bordering elite after being absolutely elite the year prior.
In 2021 he was averaging 2.2 goals a game at 16.4 disposals, which is also bloody awesome.
Whilst he hasn't exactly lived up to expectations due to the amount of promise he had early on, he's just eleven games shy of two hundred which is pretty bloody good. And while I get that's not where his potential suggested he might have ended up by now, it's not like it's shithouse.
As much as anything else Jake outside of his own personal issues towards the game is a victim of hype from bogan dickheads in the media like BT etc. who called him the package when he was on the way up without really looking into his game closely.
I reckon it's almost time to lay off him. He is what he is.
I actually largely agree with all of this, especially the part about the hype not being his fault. He had a couple of amazing years with us and had some key moments in our amazing finals run.
That being said he's a bit of a knob and he plays for Essendon, so larrydavidunsure.gif
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His first two years were awesome but I would say he still didn’t live up to his salary in his first few years at Essendon.
A lot of his goals have been kick it to me out the back.
He is a player who will give you 5 minutes then disappears too.
I guess we can make cases for both being good or being bad.
I still don’t think I would like to be compared to him.
I would want to be compared to a hard worker on the training track who wants to get the most out of myself.
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He will always be a Bullgod to me for 2 legendary kicks
one to Dicko and the other to Picko
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He will always be a Bullgod to me for 2 legendary kicks
one to Dicko and the other to Picko
Then he got a little sicko, and Bevo gave him the flicko.
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So has the 1st Round ended yet?
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Stringer has obviously played some good football but the idea of Essendon trading up in the top of the draft to get someone in the “Stringer Role” when not only do they already have Stringer to play the “Stringer Role”, but also that the “Stringer Role” sums up everything wrong with them as a club is completely hilarious to me.
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AFL Draft 2023: Explosion of live trade talks shows draft night has forever changed
Thank goodness Optus did not have another meltdown on night one of this year?s draft, as the phones blared all across the AFL, causing a marathon evening, writes Sam Landsberger.
The explosion of live trade talks has transformed the AFL draft into a series of mini auctions.
But when the phones were put down after Monday?s marathon draft meeting you wonder whether two clubs might?ve been left feeling a little disconnected.
West Coast, after a Fitzroy-like season, walked away from round one with Harley Reid and nobody else.
Was Reid really all they could extract from this year?s diamond first dozen players?
?Disappointed for sure, we felt there was a good opportunity to get a really good player but that?s the way it goes,? Eagles list boss Rohan O?Brien said last night.
And Greater Western Sydney held the golden ticket to next year?s talent pool.
The Giants sat back on Monday and watched the offers roll in for their No. 8 pick, and rights to sliding stopper Daniel Curtin.
The Eagles offered up their future first-round pick.
That could?ve seen the Giants turn Jacob Hopper into the 2024 No. 1 pick.
But they instead sold Curtin to the Crows, accepting No. 11, No. 15 and a future second-rounder for No. 8 and No. 17.
You could understand why.
The Giants are in premiership mode and after an inactive trade period they wanted to retain an early pick to help strengthen them next year, as well as adding to their 2024 collateral.
But when the Giants used that No. 11 pick (pushed to No. 12) on bolter Phoenix Gothard eyebrows were raised.
It was a heck of a shock.
The AFL had not invited Gothard to the draft, but he was there anyway as a guest of teammate Connor O?Sullivan.
Most clubs thought he would go in the second or perhaps even the third round.
So wouldn?t the Giants have got Gothard at their next selection anyway?
Clubs canvassed during the draft suspected they would have, but you suspect the Giants had contrasting intelligence.
But the Giants had secured that bonus pick in next year?s draft and so it still made sense.
Well, momentarily. When ?Mr Fix It? James Leake was on the board at No. 17 they get on the phone again.
The Giants held No. 18 and so they asked St Kilda if it would flip selections if they threw in Adelaide?s second-rounder.
The Saints said yes, and the Giants selected Leake.
Suddenly that bonus pick belonged to the Saints, who were not going to take Leake.
The Saints still got their man in Darcy Wilson, and now it was them with a bonus pick in 2024.
Essendon (Nate Caddy), Adelaide (Daniel Curtin) and Greater Western Sydney (James Leake) all rose up the order to secure their dream targets who had started to slip.
AFL talent guru Kevin Sheehan likened Wilson to Carlton superstar Sam Walsh, and new St Kilda list boss Stephen Silvagni has now drafted both of them.
Leigh Montagna questioned whether the Giants had drafted in the wrong order.
Would they have got Leake at No. 12 and Gothard at No. 18 without having to sacrifice that bonus second-rounder?
Don?t be fooled by the fact that only three live trades were executed at Monday night?s marathon first round.
It seemed every selection there were high-powered talks taking place between the corporate boxes filled with club heavyweights.
Thank goodness Optus did not have another meltdown on night one of this year?s draft.
Essendon, too, moved up the order by one to ensure it would not miss out.
The Bombers sent No. 11 and 31 to Geelong for No. 10.
That guaranteed them power forward Nate Caddy and if they did not do that deal then the Cats could?ve sent the pick elsewhere to a rival Caddy fan.
There were hundreds of phone calls placed for three trades struck.
But Melbourne offered a future first-rounder and No. 7 for Hawthorn?s No. 5 and was rebuffed.
That might?ve seen the Demons hand over two first-round picks for Nick Watson, a potent goalkicker who would?ve strengthened their premiership chances next year.
Sydney, Hawthorn and North Melbourne all picked up the phone but hung up on potential deals to move up and down the order.
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Pretty silly of Essendon to trade that 2nd rounder with Geelong.
Geelong would have known Essendon wanted Caddy. Once Geelong agreed to it, Essendon should have said ‘we have changed our minds, no deal’ , knowing that Cats weren’t keen on Caddy.
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Stringer has obviously played some good football but the idea of Essendon trading up in the top of the draft to get someone in the “Stringer Role” when not only do they already have Stringer to play the “Stringer Role”, but also that the “Stringer Role” sums up everything wrong with them as a club is completely hilarious to me.
They want contract year Stringer. That guy can rip the arse out of a team. That guy they have now just isn't as good.
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The Eagles offered up their future first-round pick.
That could?ve seen the Giants turn Jacob Hopper into the 2024 No. 1 pick.
But they instead sold Curtin to the Crows, accepting No. 11, No. 15 and a future second-rounder for No. 8 and No. 17.
This must grossly misrepresent what the Eagles offer was. There is no way they knocked back a good offer involving WCE F1 for the sake of improving pick 17 into 15 and picking up a bolter in Gothard who probably would have been available at that later pick anyway.