Re: Always Right Match Committee Rnd 10, vs North Melbourne
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Originally Posted by
Mantis
No Lipinski?
Surely he deserves an opportunity.
Where does he play?
He's racking it up at VFL level as a slow inside mid, doesn't seem an area of need for us.
I'd have Dale in for Hayes as a start, and McLean can run further up the ground so Dale can rotate high forward
English for Fletch, Trengove plays back.
Re: Always Right Match Committee Rnd 10, vs North Melbourne
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Originally Posted by
DOG GOD
I dont even want to think what Ben Brown will do to Roberts next week. We need English back ASAP so Trengove can go back.
Ben Brown sucks now that his finishing move, run at the ball as fast as he can and extend his arms with no chance of marking it to try and win a free, has been adequately scouted. Roberts is likely not up to AFL standard but he'll be fine on Brown.
Re: Always Right Match Committee Rnd 10, vs North Melbourne
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Originally Posted by
Happy Days
Ben Brown sucks now that his finishing move, run at the ball as fast as he can and extend his arms with no chance of marking it to try and win a free, has been adequately scouted. Roberts is likely not up to AFL standard but he'll be fine on Brown.
Well, time will tell on that...I hope you’re right and I’m wrong.
Re: Always Right Match Committee Rnd 10, vs North Melbourne
out
gowers hayes young
in Lipinski Williams English or Lewis Young
Re: Always Right Match Committee Rnd 10, vs North Melbourne
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Originally Posted by
chef
I'd be dropping Wood before Young, but hes captain so it aint happening.
I think we missed a golden opportunity this year in not naming the Bont as captain, what an inspirational player and captain he would be, and I think he would handle the pressure of being a captain easily, lets Woody settle down and just play.
Re: Always Right Match Committee Rnd 10, vs North Melbourne
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Originally Posted by
Danjul
A normal team would not consider playing Roberts out of position like that. It would have a fullback to play on Brown. Just like it would on Hawkins etc.
Unfortunately playing people in ridiculous roles is the new normal. The concept of specialist is dead.
Are you saying Roberts is out of position when playing at fullback? Where on Earth is is actual preferred position then? IIRC he played on Patton and Tippett in 2016 in the finals.
Re: Always Right Match Committee Rnd 10, vs North Melbourne
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Originally Posted by
Mofra
Where does he play?
He's racking it up at VFL level as a slow inside mid, doesn't seem an area of need for us.
I'd have Dale in for Hayes as a start, and McLean can run further up the ground so Dale can rotate high forward
English for Fletch, Trengove plays back.
Has to play high half forward.
Re: Always Right Match Committee Rnd 10, vs North Melbourne
Outs
1. Will Hayes - hasn't gone right for him since his first AFL game. Go back to the VFL and try to develop some class. Then give it another go.
2. Billy Gowers - gives away too many stupid free kicks. Things just are not getting better. He is not getting smarter with each game. He spoils good attacking moves.
3. Latchie Young - never was ready for AFL. Showed some promise, must have been picked on the basis of his training form.
4. Fletcher Roberts - loses too many one-on-ones. Wasn't good in the VFL to get a senior game in the first place.
IN
1. Patrick Lipinski - replaces Will Hayes.
Showing good form and is smart. Always will be better than Will Hayes.
2. Bailey Dale - replaces Billy Gowers.
Back to some good form. Is a better player than Billy Gowers.
3. Bailey Williams - replaces Latchie Young.
Getting back to some good form.
4. Lewis Young - replaces Fletcher Roberts or Billy Gowers.
Twice as good as Roberts. Also gaining some ruck and forward skills and making fewer blunders.
5. Tim English - if he is fit he comes in.
Then would have to not promote Bailey Dale.
OTHERS
1. E. Wood - will not be dropped as is the captain and don't have a replacement.
2. T. Liberatore - nowhere near his best.
COACH
1. Selection committee - replace these for continual poor team selection. If they pick. Hayes, Gowers and La Young again this week then we have to send them personalised letters. Matter of fact I am going to send them a letter now just to make them realise how stupid they are and in anticipation of them being stupid again.
2. Marking Coach. Who didn't train Tom Boyd to take marks. It was plainly obvious that Tom Boyd had a marking problem when he came to us. Did the coaches work on it in his first season? No. Did they work on it in the second season? No.
3. Backline Coach. Ball watching backline - when the opposition get past our defensive wall and run towards goal, their forwards run back fast. Meanwhile our backs are looking at them coming and not staying on their man. Always a simple ball over the top for an easy goal. Our backline is shocking.
4. Player recruitment - Darcy Fort played for Footscray a few years ago. He looked like a really good player whom you would recruit. Would have picked him in front of others. Now Geelong recruit him and he stars in his first match.
Re: Always Right Match Committee Rnd 10, vs North Melbourne
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Originally Posted by
GVGjr
He's missed 2 weeks with general soreness, I think Comrade is suggesting that it might take a bit longer
In Bevo's press conference on Friday, he explained English's injury. Started with a cork thigh, then became bloody beneath the skin and they didn't want to take any risks. We need him back urgently.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Rnd 10, vs North Melbourne
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Originally Posted by
hujsh
Are you saying Roberts is out of position when playing at fullback? Where on Earth is is actual preferred position then? IIRC he played on Patton and Tippett in 2016 in the finals.
I think Roberts came to the club as a tall half forward, the role Gowers has. Apparently he was a good goal kicker. He filled in for a few games on the full back line and has been stuck there ever since. Why is he trying to control champions who are taller and heavier like Hawkins . That was a match up he was never going to win.
The way Geelong played yesterday I am amazed Hawkins got only 10 possessions and 4 goals.
Re: Always Right Match Committee Rnd 10, vs North Melbourne
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Originally Posted by
Danjul
I think Roberts came to the club as a tall half forward, the role Gowers has. Apparently he was a good goal kicker. He filled in for a few games on the full back line and has been stuck there ever since. Why is he trying to control champions who are taller and heavier like Hawkins . That was a match up he was never going to win.
The way Geelong played yesterday I am amazed Hawkins got only 10 possessions and 4 goals.
Roberts would be an opposition's dream as a forward. He's as slow as a wet week so he wouldn't get any separation on a lead, and would not apply any defensive pressure. He can't jump either so would be useless aerially, and is equally atrocious below his knees.
Even if he kicked 2 goals, his deficiencies would concede double that amount.
Re: Always Right Match Committee Rnd 10, vs North Melbourne
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Originally Posted by
Danjul
I think Roberts came to the club as a tall half forward, the role Gowers has. Apparently he was a good goal kicker. He filled in for a few games on the full back line and has been stuck there ever since. Why is he trying to control champions who are taller and heavier like Hawkins . That was a match up he was never going to win.
The way Geelong played yesterday I am amazed Hawkins got only 10 possessions and 4 goals.
He has played forward at Footscray. I think it's fair to say that if he'd performed well in the role he'd be there now.
Re: Always Right Match Committee Rnd 10, vs North Melbourne
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Originally Posted by
Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
Roberts would be an opposition's dream as a forward. He's as slow as a wet week so he wouldn't get any separation on a lead, and would not apply any defensive pressure. He can't jump either so would be useless aerially, and is equally atrocious below his knees.
Even if he kicked 2 goals, his deficiencies would concede double that amount.
we will not know until we try it. And no one has done anything to be pleased with on the forward line in years. Look at Saturday , many of Geelongs 21 goals were generated up the ground.
The highlight of the Dogs scoring in the last 50 games was a few bags of 4, and Schache getting 4 and Naughton getting 5 this year.
In 2015 there were 17 times our forwards kicked 4 or more goals. 13 of the games that year had more goals than yesterday.
Always preferred watching big scoring to one-percenters and defensive pressure and whatever.
Re: Always Right Match Committee Rnd 10, vs North Melbourne
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Originally Posted by
Danjul
we will not know until we try it. And no one has done anything to be pleased with on the forward line in years. Look at Saturday , many of Geelongs 21 goals were generated up the ground.
The highlight of the Dogs scoring in the last 50 games was a few bags of 4, and Schache getting 4 and Naughton getting 5 this year.
In 2015 there were 17 times our forwards kicked 4 or more goals. 13 of the games that year had more goals than yesterday.
Always preferred watching big scoring to one-percenters and defensive pressure and whatever.
I think we know exactly how Roberts would go up forward based on his skill set. Just pretending his deficiencies would magically disappear by placing him forward is not a good plan.
As for scoring, i just prefer winning our score yesterday was precisely the same as our 2016 premiership. I cared not a jot that we didn't score more heavily once the siren sounded.
Re: Always Right Match Committee Rnd 10, vs North Melbourne
Young for Young, Lewis time has surely come, can provide a ruck chop out. Lachie will be a good player and has had a taste.
Dale for Hayes, if Bailey is at his best he is a true asset to the side.
Less likely, but I’d do it..
Williams for Wood/suckers if sore
Lipinski for Gowers