Re: Rating the 2023 Overall List Management Period
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bornadog
I believe it is called The Whatever It takes Academy
Set up to still not to win a final for another number of years :D
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I like that we have drafted 5 kids. It gives a nice fill up to the list with some youth. Hoping that they can all be 100+ game players.
Re: Rating the 2023 Overall List Management Period
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bornadog
I believe it is called The Whatever It takes Academy
It has been more of "The What are we Doing Academy"
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Bulldog Joe
It has been more of "The What are we Doing Academy"
So what they do now is let other teams do the work then if a player is any good take them under pick 40.
It’s smart, wrong but smart.
I’m surprised they didn’t take Dear they stoop that low.
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ledge
I am always amazed how commentary is about who won the draft 2 minutes after it?s done .
How can you possibly know until years down the track ?
We won as far as I can see.
It?s a little hard to see though as my view is obscured by the next 3 flags we?ve pretty much already got wrapped up.
Re: Rating the 2023 Overall List Management Period
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ledge
So what they do now is let other teams do the work then if a player is any good take them under pick 40.
It’s smart, wrong but smart.
I’m surprised they didn’t take Dear they stoop that low.
Is it though? No one else rated him in the top 40 (at least with the picks they had). If they had someone they think is better and didn't get them then it's not smart, it's kinda dumb.
I hope he comes back in a couple years. We can offer pick 40
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hujsh
Is it though? No one else rated him in the top 40 (at least with the picks they had). If they had someone they think is better and didn't get them then it's not smart, it's kinda dumb.
I hope he comes back in a couple years. We can offer pick 40
I did say If they are any good . But yes it can work against you if no one else did it before 40 obviously 38 was rated above him , so he either went at the right pick or they paid overs . In saying that we were going to take him at 45 so 39 isn’t to far off the mark. He was with in the range of 40 to 45
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ledge
I did say If they are any good . But yes it can work against you if no one else did it before 40 obviously 38 was rated above him , so he either went at the right pick or they paid overs . In saying that we were going to take him at 45 so 39 isn’t to far off the mark. He was with in the range of 40 to 45
But it's still not smart. It's just baseline. If you think a player is the 39th best or better you take them with pick 39 unless you're being charitable or have concerns they'll leave and you'll waste your investment.
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hujsh
Is it though? No one else rated him in the top 40 (at least with the picks they had). If they had someone they think is better and didn't get them then it's not smart, it's kinda dumb.
I hope he comes back in a couple years. We can offer pick 40
Surely bidding on a player can only be “smart” if you make the club with rights to him pay overs. If you take an NGA in the sub-40 range, it‘s just called “drafting” isn’t it? Pick a player you like at that pick.
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MrMahatma
Surely bidding on a player can only be “smart” if you make the club with rights to him pay overs. If you take an NGA in the sub-40 range, it‘s just called “drafting” isn’t it? Pick a player you like at that pick.
Yep, unless of course the club with rights calls your bluff
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MrMahatma
Surely bidding on a player can only be “smart” if you make the club with rights to him pay overs. If you take an NGA in the sub-40 range, it‘s just called “drafting” isn’t it? Pick a player you like at that pick.
It’s like their pick ten the media drool over it, what a great get etc . Fact is no other club wanted him under pick 10 so he is a pick 10 at best.
So did Essendon pick Lual just to piss us off ? Not a smart way to do business .
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ledge
It’s like their pick ten the media drool over it, what a great get etc . Fact is no other club wanted him under pick 10 so he is a pick 10 at best.
So did Essendon pick Lual just to piss us off ? Not a smart way to do business .
Can you find a Lual reaction video?
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Grantysghost
Can you find a Lual reaction video?
He said prior to the draft he really wanted to come to us. Being 1 pick away he surely was a little flat about missing out. That's how essendon roll though. They don't really care what happens to their players.
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bulldogsthru&thru
He said prior to the draft he really wanted to come to us. Being 1 pick away he surely was a little flat about missing out. That's how essendon role though. They don't really care what happens to their players.
We would have called them too and pleaded the case.
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bulldogsthru&thru
He said prior to the draft he really wanted to come to us. Being 1 pick away he surely was a little flat about missing out. That's how essendon roll though. They don't really care what happens to their players.
As I've previously mentioned I didn't mind if a club was genuinely into Lual and picked him from pick 25 to perhaps as late as 35 but after that they really need to have a rethink and assess if they could offer him as much support and a chance for success on and off the field as we would have. Essendon obviously rated him but the right thing would have been for them to let him slide though.