Re: Clubs circle Bulldogs star Cooney
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Originally Posted by
bornadog
Why do you think he is disinterested? What is going on at the club?
Why does something have to be "going on at the club"? Why can't it be what's going on with Adam?
He is paid to be a professional, not cracking the sads if he isn't playing in his favourite position.
It was great to see Adam get fired up when he got belted on the weekend. First time he has showed he cares in a long time.
Re: Clubs circle Bulldogs star Cooney
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Originally Posted by
SlimPickens
Why does something have to be "going on at the club"? Why can't it be what's going on with Adam?
He is paid to be a professional, not cracking the sads if he isn't playing in his favourite position.
It was great to see Adam get fired up when he got belted on the weekend. First time he has showed he cares in a long time.
Something is not right, that is all I am saying.
Re: Clubs circle Bulldogs star Cooney
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Originally Posted by
SlimPickens
Why does something have to be "going on at the club"? Why can't it be what's going on with Adam?
He is paid to be a professional, not cracking the sads if he isn't playing in his favourite position.
It was great to see Adam get fired up when he got belted on the weekend. First time he has showed he cares in a long time.
Cost him $900 though :(
Re: Clubs circle Bulldogs star Cooney
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Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
Cost him $900 though :(
He has plenty.
Re: Clubs circle Bulldogs star Cooney
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Originally Posted by
bornadog
Why do you think he is disinterested? What is going on at the club?
Reports from the Skins train with the players sessions. His recent videos on Bulldogs TV. Body language on game day. Needing to be belted over the ear to actually fire up.
I really admire your fierce loyalty to the club and the players. I'm not sure it's returned to you by certain players, who really see it more as a career and business. And that's fine, there are different levels of involvement.
Without fans like you BAD, the club does not exist, especially a small club like ours.
Re: Clubs circle Bulldogs star Cooney
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Originally Posted by
bornadog
Something is not right, that is all I am saying.
You better let Ryan Griffen know.
Re: Clubs circle Bulldogs star Cooney
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Originally Posted by
Ghost Dog
Reports from the Skins train with the players sessions. His recent videos on Bulldogs TV. Body language on game day. Needing to be belted over the ear to actually fire up.
I really admire your fierce loyalty to the club and the players. I'm not sure it's returned to you by certain players, who really see it more as a career and business. And that's fine, there are different levels of involvement.
Without fans like you BAD, the club does not exist, especially a small club like ours.
There are two sides to every story.
If it was up to many fans we would get rid of every player over 22 years old.:D
Re: Clubs circle Bulldogs star Cooney
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Originally Posted by
Hot_Doggies
You better let Ryan Griffen know.
Please elaborate
Re: Clubs circle Bulldogs star Cooney
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Originally Posted by
bornadog
There are two sides to every story.
If it was up to many fans we would get rid of every player over 22 years old.:D
I know what you mean! It's not a playstation game. You can't switch players at the drop of a hat. Takes about four years Griff reckons.
And I think Hot_Doggie means, Griff is firing on all pistons - no problem at the club for him. Or Will Minson for that matter.
Re: Clubs circle Bulldogs star Cooney
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Originally Posted by
bornadog
Please elaborate
Something isn't right at the club?
Griffen seems to be going ok. New coach wants players to work both ways and Cooney seems disinterested, stop the presses!
Re: Clubs circle Bulldogs star Cooney
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Originally Posted by
bornadog
There are two sides to every story.
If it was up to many fans we would get rid of every player over 22 years old.:D
Don't think that's a fair reflection. Supporters have the right to question a players output, much like we have the right to question a coach or administration.
You're using Adam as an example of what is wrong with the club. It could be argued that Adams attitude is what the problem is. Look at other senior players Griff, Minson, Gia, Morris and Murph have all been fantastic this year at guiding and aiding a young football team.
I think the club has stood by Adam for a number of years and due to poor management of an injury we have been robbed of his best football. If we don't do our due diligence on every player on the list including not offering Adam "overs" for the player he is now then the club is clearly negligent in their duties. If Adam wants to chase a flag or more coin so be it, I won't be blaming the club for holding its ground.
Re: Clubs circle Bulldogs star Cooney
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Originally Posted by
bornadog
we could have kept Harbrow and Ward if we had of managed the situation better.
What do you believe we could have done to keep these two BAD?
Re: Clubs circle Bulldogs star Cooney
I think we need to make the distinction.
The club is not sacking Adam. It is not trading Adam. On the contrary it will make Adam a fair offer to stay a bulldog for life. I'm not sure how this is ill treatment or mismanagement.
It is up to Adam to accept the offer or leave for perceived greener pastures. If he voluntarily leaves, I don't think the club can be castigated.
We have been good to Adam and he has been good to the club. This is just the business side of AFL kicking in.
Re: Clubs circle Bulldogs star Cooney
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Originally Posted by
bornadog
If Cooney leaves it will be total mismanagement by the club. We have very few players in the 24 to 28 year bracket, we can ill afford to lose another
We will see how this pans out.
The point you make regarding having sufficient players in the 24-28 age bracket is a valid one. Cooney's value has now lessened considerably because of his inability to dominate in the midfield. I would think that our greatest need at the moment is a quality key forward and if that can be arranged then I would think that given Adam's large contract that was negotiated in better times for him personally, that he now becomes dispensable.
Re: Clubs circle Bulldogs star Cooney
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Originally Posted by
SlimPickens
Don't think that's a fair reflection. Supporters have the right to question a players output, much like we have the right to question a coach or administration.
You're using Adam as an example of what is wrong with the club. It could be argued that Adams attitude is what the problem is. Look at other senior players Griff, Minson, Gia, Morris and Murph have all been fantastic this year at guiding and adding a young football team.
I think the club has stood by Adam for a number of years and due to poor management of an injury we have been robbed of his best football. If we don't do our due diligence on every player on the list including not offering Adam "overs" for the player he is now then the club is clearly negligent in their duties. If Adam wants to chase a flag or more coin so be it, I won't be blaming the club for holding its ground.
All good points, but you are not getting mine.
All I am saying is if Cooney looks disinterested, then there is a reason, and it may not be just him.
Anyway, all moot points, we are all guessing. It just pisses me off when people have a go at a player and they don't know the full story. I like to keep an open mind.