Varcoe 1 week ban for hit on Dahl
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Varcoe 1 week ban for hit on Dahl
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Watched the first quarter again today. "expert commentator" Cameron Ling is an idiot. As he watches the replay he says "not sure that actually got him in the head", then when they show it again clearly showing that he got all head he comes out with "looks like it just glanced the jaw". Pathetic commentary.
Jones $1000 fine foe bump on Cloke.
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Sydney midfielder Zak Jones has also avoided suspension for a late hit on Western Bulldogs forward Travis Cloke, with the MRP offering him a $1000 fine.
While Jones had appeared to make some high contact, the hit was graded careless conduct with medium impact to the body.
The MRP have had a howler this week.. Can't agree with them on any of their decisions as all were far too lenient.
Staggered by this one as well. The Lewis one is also a head shaking decision. Medium impact for fracturing a guys jaw. I wonder if the MRP would classify an on-field murder as high impact; all indications would suggest probably not. And why should a player like Lewis, with his classified bad record, be given an early plea discount?
No he gets a week week discount for an early plea.
Statement from the MRP:
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In summary, his penalty is impacted by his previous bad record and he can accept a three-match sanction with an early plea.
Based on the available evidence and a medical report from the Carlton Football Club, the incident was assessed as intentional conduct with medium impact to the head. The incident was classified as a three-match sanction. The player has an applicable bad record which impacts the penalty, increasing it by one match to a four-match sanction. An early plea enables the player to accept a three-match sanction.
The AFL removed any reduced base sanction for a good record some time back i.e there is no longer any such thing as a discount for an existing good record at the MRP stage of proceedings.
Lewis's charge is a 3 match base sanction for anyone, down to 2 with an early plea for anyone, but plus 1 for him because he's been a thug in the past 2 years.
If you go through the process it's reckless, medium impact to the body and not the head and it knocked the wind out of him for a few seconds.
I think a fine is OK.
Compared to Dahlhaus who got picked off with the ball nowhere near him I think they got it close to right.
Wasn't really fussed about the Cloke one after seeing it a few times. He was in the air and chose to bump but didn't get the head. A 50m penalty and a fine was sufficient.
Thompson should have had 3-4 weeks thrown at him. Lucky he didn't break a jaw or eye socket, but then again it wasn't the only target he missed during the game.
Thompson deserved 4 weeks. That was a shit act. I hate that incidental contact to the head when attempting to execute a skill of the game generates more severe penalties than these type of thing.
Ziebell cleared.
Bring on the free for all. If you can hit open blokes and smash their ribs consequence free, then I have many names to give Smith & Cordy. Like the 'tummy punches' last year, if you don't do anything, don't over react AFEL when it's happening all the time and parents take their kids to soccer clubs instead of footy clubs.
I'm torn. Feel like it was a fair bump on all criteria except that he got him after he'd disposed of the ball. What is the correct punishment? At first I felt a free kick down field, maybe a 50m penalty would do the trick and I want to hold that position. However, I can recall when they introduced "charging" as a suspension and the threshold for suspension for what otherwise would've been a fair bump came right down. You can't just pick blokes off after they've disposed of it, you can't just charge into blokes without any intent to win the ball. He had a case to answer, at least. Surely.
To me it was a free kick downfield or a 50m penalty. Neither of which were paid by the attending umpire. It was late that's all. It wasn't high and he copped Cloke square. It's unfortunate that it will cost us a player for six weeks but I would hate to see the hardness come out of our game.
I didn't see it as hardness. More as picking a bloke off after he'd gotten rid of the ball. Hardness is two players going for the ball and not taking their eyes off it.
Ziebell didn't look at the ball but had his eyes on Cloke all the time. I thought if you elect to make contact and you cause an injury then you get weeks?
It was late in that Cloke had disposed of the ball, but he had to rush the kick to do it. The only way you could suspend Ziebell for that is on the basis that Cloke was hurt by it
Yep, it was right on the borderline of being in play or late. Could easily mount a case either way.
Much as I dislike Norf and feel sorry for Clokey, it's not an appalling decision. What was appalling was Ziebell's footy IQ. Fancy trying to bump instead of smother in that situation - what a dopey prick, and he's their captain FFS.
I am also torn on the Ziebell bump. I thought it was a good bump. However, I thought if he elects to bump rather than tackle (with intent to hurt the other player), well he must cop the consequences if the player is injured. Well apparently not.
The chook lotto 2017 edition. Ziebell wins the get out of jail free card.
Gibson done a similar bump on Ruggles today, I wonder what prize he'll spin.
Yeah cheap shot but don't think it's suspension worthy. Agree though, there is nothing tough about bumping a guy who opens themselves up like that. He's one of those fake tough guys parading around at their club. McDonald now wears #11 so his toughness level just went through the roof. Watch him become Norf's enforcer now.
Shinboner spirit? Pfff.
Would have hated it if Ziebell got suspended. Its a contact sport, and it was a bump to the body - not to the head.
Agree with Sedat that he really should have smothered. If Libba didn't mark (awful kick to him - but Libba made it work), then I'd have been livid if it wasn't a down the field free - but no suspension is the correct call.
I agree the worst thing was there wasn't a free paid.
Honestly, I am more pissed off that the biggest sniper and dirtiest bastard in th game, Toby Greene, got off with a fine because he "wasn't looking at him" when he floored Dan Houston with an uppercut. Barry Hall wasn't looking when he threw that infamous punch at Staker, should that be classed as 'careless' rather than 'intentional' too?
I hope we don't get the Andrew Swallow lookalike umpire again. he hates us.
KB's take:
Agree with KB - players are starting to think they can get away with it.Quote:
A very benevolent Match Review Panel has me scratching my head.
I fully expected North Melbourne’s skipper Jack Ziebell to get suspended for his hit on Travis Cloke.
Cloke has multiple broken ribs and will miss somewhere between four and six weeks after being crashed into by Ziebell after he had kicked the ball.
The facts are Ziebell was late, the ball had well and truly left Cloke’s boot when Ziebell thudded into the key forward.
It was a bad precedent to set by the MRP for it’s the players responsibility not to be late.
Also, West Coast's Mark LeCras and GWS's Toby Greene also got fines instead of suspensions.
How lucky were they with a friendly MRP.
Now, through my eyes, I would expect out of yesterday’s game that Josh Gibson is to miss games after taking out Tom Ruggles who was guarding the mark and picked off.
The Cats' Sam Menegola has to go for his dangerous sling tackle on Luke Hodge and James Parsons also should sit out games after his elbow to the jaw dropped Hodge who must have the hardest head in the game.
But in a time when rubbing out players seems to be frowned upon it would not surprise me now that all the above may get a consolation prize and play next week.
I’m KB, that’s my take.
This was the 2nd incident involving Cloke (Swan player Jones), and now players think they can just do stupid acts and hurt players.
Can I ask what are we proposing that Ziebell be suspended for? Preferably with a link to which law of the game he broke. I'd love it if KB could do the same.