http://m.afl.com.au/news/2015-12-07/...tion.mobileapp
Glad this bloke doesn't play for our Club!
Will be interesting to see what comes of this given it seems to have a number of implications, including violence against women.
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http://m.afl.com.au/news/2015-12-07/...tion.mobileapp
Glad this bloke doesn't play for our Club!
Will be interesting to see what comes of this given it seems to have a number of implications, including violence against women.
I've been following some discussions on Twitter. A few people seem to think because he has apologised it should be enough and one or two others seem to think she has accepted the apology. A couple of others seem to think that because he was intoxicated it sort of lessens the severity. How's the standard in society at the moment?
Even a guy in the media's main comment was that he was surprised Martin could get a table at the restaurant.
Here is a tip for the Richmond footy club, being drunk is not an excuse and making an apology does not lessen the severity of the act.
This is a time for the club to set some standards.
AFL will investigate and place a ban on chopsticks at all venues henceforth. Problem solved.
I am sure the chopsticks have been lost and cannot be interviewed or examined.
Consequently there is no case to answer.
Unfortunately, I can't say I'm surprised at the media/social-media reaction.
Being drunk is certainly not an excuse, and the line that gets trotted 'If anything I have done has caused anyone to feel threatened...' - please. I'm sure the intimidatory threats of stabbing her in the face and punching the wall were not intended in such a manner.
If the AFL and/or Richmond stand for anything, this should result in a significant sanction. I don't know what a 'significant sanction' equates to in AFL circles, but if the AFL are serious about issues relating to violence against women, alcohol abuse and whatever the reference to 'continually going in and out of the bathroom' is, then something big needs to happen.
Apparently the girl was only joking
Thank Christ that Pinhead isn't at our club.
What a poor excuse for a human being.
Such a big tough macho man to be intimadating and threatening a woman with physical violence.
You make me SICK. :mad:
I don't think he did apologise. I can't see the word sorry anywhere.l
"Regrettably, I was intoxicated and that in itself is completely unacceptable," Martin said.
"I do however take responsibility for my behaviour and I am deeply embarrassed.
"If anything I have said or done has caused anyone to feel threatened then that is totally inappropriate."
Alcohol doesn't make you change your personality, if anything it shows what you are really like.
Wayne Carey should have taken out a patent on the scripted faux-apology - he would be a multi-billionaire by now.
Threatening to stab a woman in the face, in a public place, a restaurant no less. Then slamming the wall behind her head because she's going to 'dob' on you. What a pathetic act of thuggery. He really comes from very very bad stock and I just wonder what stupid thick advice his father has given him since childhood. This is VERY serious in my opinion. Imagine what he'd be like without all the disciplines and education he gets in an AFL environment. Great player, but just trouble on a stick.
What a shit bloke he is .
Richmonds response was insipid to say the least .
I suggest anyone watching hitting home that was on the ABC a few weeks back .
Domestic violence and violence against women is a shame on society .
Clubs give lip service to all this, and if it's a key player they'll go lenient on the player
A hiccup?
Really, Richmond? If that's the best they can do, that's very disappointing.
Maybe not 12 months as KB had suggested, but anything short if a significant sanction would be disgraceful.
This is a disgusting and pitiful act. Martin needs a reminder of the priveliged situation he finds himself in.
I would consider 12 months, while it maybe harsh, to be a appropriate penalty. He should miss matches at the very least. It was a horrifying thing to do.
I'm with KB. 12 months.
You know this is so typical of domestic violence.
"I'm gonna f%$#ing kill ya"
"I'm sorry"
"I'm gonna f%$#ing kill ya"
"I'm sorry"
"I'm gonna f%$#ing kill ya"
"I'm sorry"
"I'm gonna f%$#ing kill ya"
"I'm sorry"................you get the picture.
Not quite on topic, but related: I read a horrific article in this week's Good Weekend -- apparently an episode of attempted strangulation is a huge warning sign. Women who have suffered attempted strangulation by their partner are something like 800% more likely to end up being murdered by him.
There is no excuse for violence against women. Dustin will receive a wrap on the knuckles and a fine ... that is all. He is an integral part of Richmond's success and therefore cannot receive anything greater than that. The only players/coaches et al that receive appropriate sanctions are peripheral players/coaches.
Case(s) in point:-
Collingwood's pair Lachie Keefe and Josh Thomas (illicit drugs)
St. Kilda's Ahmed Saad (energy drink)
Fremantle's Ryan Crowley (pain killer)
GWS recruiter Paul Brodie (multi-bet)
None of these were 'required' players/coaches and therefore felt the full power or the law. Martin is a required player
Where would you put Libba in that list, Scraggers?
That's a good point ... in 2012 he was given one strike by the AFL and suspended for the remainder of the season by the Bulldogs. (not a big sanction considering our ladder position that year). Earlier this year he missed appointments which put him back on the radar; there is no (overt) evidence that he relapsed with drugs, but again he was sanctioned by the club. I have no issue with the way he was dealt with ... swift and firm.
Not disputing the facts, Aza, just taking note of the way the club handled it at the time (fwiw, I thought it was an appropriate sanction).
But it's interesting to wonder if the approach would have been different if we'd been seriously challenging at the time.
Can he be sacked and picked up in the PSD on a basic contract?
Surely his current deal has behavioural clauses within it that can be invoked.
HAHAHAHA.
The AFL is only serious about women's issues when it can work to the betterment of their #brand. Nothing the AFL does pisses me off more than the lip service to women in the game than we see in the pink washing of the MCG every year as if it means anything to them beyond a helicopter photo and a hashtag.
If they want to be an amoral entity and leave disciplining of social issues up to the clubs and/or the police then that's fine! But how dare they continue to pick and choose their battles as if they are a political party.
With that in mind, if the AFL's form line is anything to go by, if he abused the woman then "Dusty's got his problems to work through, we all know that, but he's just focusing on helping the boys on the field in 2016", if he did it while pissed it'll make some great Footy Show "banter" in about 5 years, but if he did it on DRUGSEVILDRUGS then he might actually be hanged on the steps of AFL house.
The only piece left in this scenario is for Sam Newman to come out and say what an overreaction this has all been and Martin is only being criticised because he's a footballer.
Dustin was just a goose no more :rolleyes:
(note doctored for fun)
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Acted like a goose ... Way to hit him with both barrels Brendon
Nick Stevens to act as a character witness?
Now after much backlash through social media etc,
AFL said they will help investigate the matter - maybe Telliar can give Martin some pointers on how to stretch this out. :DQuote:
RICHMOND has belatedly taken a much stronger public stance after star Dustin Martin allegedly threatened a woman in a drunken incident.
Tigers chief executive Brendon Gale said in a statement that the Saturday night incident was very serious and it demands a thorough investigation.
He said Richmond is incredibly disappointed in Martin, who has apologised to the woman.
Earlier on Tuesday, club legend Kevin Bartlett demanded that Richmond ban Martin for 12 months and he make a $50,000 donation to an appropriate charity.
On Monday, Tigers football manager Dan Richardson had called the incident a hiccup.
Richmond is working with the AFL in investigating the matter and the club will make an announcement by the end of the week on what action they will take against Martin.
"This is a very serious matter that requires a thorough investigation and we are working with the AFL to ensure we have all the facts before us," Gale said.
"I want to be clear that any threat of physical violence against a woman - or any member of the public for that matter - is completely unacceptable.
"Dustin is disappointed in his behaviour and we are incredibly disappointed in Dustin."
Ok the real statement :D
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVra_AAUAAAGiS1.jpg
I want to be as fair as I can but as a minimum a 4 week sanction from the home and away season needs to be the starting point. The more I read about it I think a better outcome is 6 weeks. If it's more than that I'd support it but I'm trying to work out a penalty that the AFL and Richmond could work towards.
It then becomes a huge starting point for any other acts of violence against women.
Also, is there any reason why a police charge couldn't be made? He's threatened harm and has acknowledged that.
The guy who assaulted that lady in Freo got 9 months in the big house didn't he?