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Three things I've learned-Round 9 v Geelong
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Re: Three things I've learned-Round 9 v Geelong
1. Stupid decisions hurt. Adams HTB & Clokes torp...
2. We are in a very dangerous place this season now.
3. The kids will be ok.
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Re: Three things I've learned-Round 9 v Geelong
1. We're actually not that good.
2. We're the only club that could gift Taylor 5 goals.
3. Our game plan of happy handball is crap.
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Re: Three things I've learned-Round 9 v Geelong
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Originally Posted by
The Bulldogs Bite
1. We're actually not that good.
2. We're the only club that could gift Taylor 5 goals.
3. Our game plan of happy handball is crap.
Some solid BF-esque melting.
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Re: Three things I've learned-Round 9 v Geelong
1. Geelong could win the spoon and still beat us twice in a season. They plan their season around the 8 points they get against us.
2. The umpires desperately wanted to make sure we don't don't break a decade long streak. They were practically barracking Geelong home.
3. Our field kicking is almost as bad as our goal kicking. Which is hard to comprehend.
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Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
1. Stupid decisions hurt. Adams HTB & Clokes torp...
2. We are in a very dangerous place this season now.
3. The kids will be ok.
How was that play on? He went back on the mark and held the back for 5 seconds. Even in Geelong that was a disgrace.
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Greystache
How was that play on? He went back on the mark and held the back for 5 seconds. Even in Geelong that was a disgrace.
How was Menzel's play on, not. How did Selwood get two dodgy frees in the last. How did we not get frees in the last. How was Bob paid holding the ball when he legally disposed of it. And so on.
Cheating I'd say, if I had an educated guess.
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Re: Three things I've learned-Round 9 v Geelong
1/ Last year we were super even with solid contributions by all, we aren't getting that this year.
2/ The lack on intensity in the 2nd and 4th quarters was horrid.
3/ Lin Jong is easily in our best 22... One of the few in our team that's improved on 2016 output.
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Originally Posted by
comrade
Some solid BF-esque melting.
We haven't looked good all year besides a quarter here and a quarter there.
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Originally Posted by
The Bulldogs Bite
1. We're actually not that good.
2. We're the only club that could gift Taylor 5 goals.
3. Our game plan of happy handball is crap.
Gee that's epic face book and bf
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Mantis
3/ Lin Jong is easily in our best 22... One of the few in our team that's improved on 2016 output.
He needs to put in 4 quarters. Only had 4 touches in the last, but agree overall he was good.
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Re: Three things I've learned-Round 9 v Geelong
1. Can't play Cloke and jack in the one team
2. We are just to inconsistent, it's frustrating to say the least .
3. Last year we were even, but were carrying a few passengers this year
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Re: Three things I've learned-Round 9 v Geelong
We may end up 10th or 11th by Monday.
Dangerfield is very good (when no-one runs with him or through him), Selwood, like the Pygmy three-toed sloth,
is a highly protected species.
A poor umpiring decision which turns a game will one day see a result challenged in Court.
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bornadog
He needs to put in 4 quarters. Only had 4 touches in the last, but agree overall he was good.
He probably gets buggered from carrying some of his team mates. He was sensational tonight and has been a shining light all season. It could be said that Bont rarely plays four quarters.
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Originally Posted by
The Bulldogs Bite
1. We're actually not that good.
2. We're the only club that could gift Taylor 5 goals.
3. Our game plan of happy handball is crap.
That "crap" gameplan won us a premiership.
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Originally Posted by
always right
He probably gets buggered from carrying some of his team mates. He was sensational tonight and has been a shining light all season. It could be said that Bont rarely plays four quarters.
Whilst I agree with you, I would like to see him take another step and finish games strongly - Selwood and Danger are good examples.
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Re: Three things I've learned-Round 9 v Geelong
1. I hate losing. How did we endure it so long?
2. Joel Selwood is a very unlovable footballer
3. There is one thing I'd like to learn, but haven't. Why do Geelong have such a hold over us?
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The bulldog tragician
3. There is one thing I'd like to learn, but haven't. Why do Geelong have such a hold over us?
No idea but after the bagging they've received in the press, they were always going to respond. They played like men possessed tonight and tackled like they've never tackled before. I hope we play them again this year but cause they won't perform like that again.
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Re: Three things I've learned-Round 9 v Geelong
1. It's a long drive home from Geelong.
2. Joel Selwood is completely unlikeable.
3. We will beat them at a neutral ground.
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Re: Three things I've learned-Round 9 v Geelong
1. I thought I couldn't hate Geelong any more. I was so wrong.
2. Bevo is a brilliant coach but wasn't brilliant last night. Dangerfield was left alone to do as he pleased for far too long. One of Cordy and Roberts also should of been selected.
3. The crappy handball game isn't stacking up. We are now the hunted and teams all want to get our scalp. We need to adjust the kick to handball ratio when teams have shut down our space. Geelong simply hovered around our outlet players and tackled them as soon as they got the ball causing the turn over and because of our set up we had holes everywhere for Geelong to KICK through. Our game plan isn't crap it just needs a plan B. Opposition have adjusted but we haven't. Our gameplan also can't have any passengers either and we have a few atm.
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Re: Three things I've learned-Round 9 v Geelong
1. Lose to the saints and we might not make the 8
2. Wallis is a very very good player (future captain)
3. Danger wood LOVES playing us.
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Re: Three things I've learned-Round 9 v Geelong
1. We need to get back to some basics. Play a ruckman, send someone to their best player when he's killing us and play enough tall backs to cover their tall forwards. Lin Jong rucking when we can't win a clearance in the second quarter is pure stupidity.
2. Bonti is human. He was poor tonight, seemed to spend very little time around the ball.
3. Bailey Dale has more about him than I thought. One of our best, his composure was immense.
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bornadog
Whilst I agree with you, I would like to see him take another step and finish games strongly - Selwood and Danger are good examples.
The 2 players mentioned are in the competitions best 10-15 players whereas Lin is (was) borderline best 22.. To think he will have a similar impact as them is unreasonable... and when we got on top both were very quiet.
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1. My respect for Mitch Wallis has gone through the roof.
2. We need Tom Boyd to play 30/70 forward ruck. Get Rough or TC in please.
3. We won a flag before our time, still think there is a truckload of improvement in this list. Hope it bears more fruit.
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Re: Three things I've learned-Round 9 v Geelong
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always right
That "crap" gameplan won us a premiership.
Our handball game last year was far different to what we're doing now.
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The Bulldogs Bite
Our handball game last year was far different to what we're doing now.
Please explain.
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always right
Please explain.
Teams have adjusted to it, plus we're being scrutinised for throwing the ball more than we were last year.
To say it's gotten worse is probably off the mark, but we can't rely on it to the extent we did.
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Originally Posted by
SlimPickens
1. My respect for Mitch Wallis has gone through the roof.
2. We need Tom Boyd to play 30/70 forward ruck. Get Rough or TC in please.
3. We won a flag before our time, still think there is a truckload of improvement in this list. Hope it bears more fruit.
Absolutely, big marks and goals forward. He looked our most dangerous tall forward, despite rucking most of the game. And then when he was rested using Jong, who was having a ripping game, which then nullified his impact at those contests hurt his burst pace ability to hit the contest and go. I know Bevo doesn't like Campbell at the moment for being one dimensional, but he's robing Peter to pay Paul with this stuff.
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Mantis
The 2 players mentioned are in the competitions best 10-15 players whereas Lin is (was) borderline best 22.. To think he will have a similar impact as them is unreasonable... and when we got on top both were very quiet.
Maybe you didn't read my post - Quote " I would like to see him take another step"
As I also said in another post, he is progressing along and improving every game.
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jeemak
Teams have adjusted to it, plus we're being scrutinised for throwing the ball more than we were last year.
To say it's gotten worse is probably off the mark, but we can't rely on it to the extent we did.
I don't disagree but Bulldogs Bite stated that "Our handball game is far different". What are we doing differently?
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Re: Three things I've learned-Round 9 v Geelong
1. Jong is the only one of our players over 22 years of age who has shown significant improvement year on year.
2. Bailey Dale has the makings of a very good AFL footballer and will play many more games this season.
3. JJ continues to provide fantastic run and carry but has a serious case of the yips when kicking for goal on the run and it deflates the team. I can't recall when he last kicked one.
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Re: Three things I've learned-Round 9 v Geelong
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always right
3. JJ continues to provide fantastic run and carry but has a serious case of the yips when kicking for goal on the run and it deflates the team. I can't recall when he last kicked one.
Add Suckling to this. They are the two we look to the most running towards the 50 and yet they have both kicked almost purely points this season. Not good enough.
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always right
I don't disagree but Bulldogs Bite stated that "Our handball game is far different". What are we doing differently?
Our handball game isn't different it's the opposition having plans to combat it. And it's working atm.
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Re: Three things I've learned-Round 9 v Geelong
1. Chris Scott must wonder what all the fuss is about with Bevo. Owns him
2. We are pretty comfortable with where we are and what we have done. Would have thought the dumpings this week would have put the fear of god into the group. But we just keep doing what we are doing and not playing 4 quarters.
3. We have a few players playing for their careers.
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ratsmac
Our handball game isn't different it's the opposition having plans to combat it. And it's working atm.
Plus the umpire pressure making sure we 'connect' with proper hand passes.
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I wish we could play the Cats handball game, which doesn't actually require you to get a fist to the ball.
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Re: Three things I've learned-Round 9 v Geelong
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comrade
I wish we could play the Cats handball game, which doesn't actually require you to get a fist to the ball.
Nah....we're the only team that throws.
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Thought many of the Cats' "tackles" were just one person driving someone onto the ground ( could have been paid differently as in the back) and then others piling on...
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Re: Three things I've learned-Round 9 v Geelong
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always right
Nah....we're the only team that throws.
Apparently we are. My boss told me I was burying my head in the sand if I thought we didn't do it and other teams did.
Told him I was not an Ostrich but other teams have taken over from us.
After last night, Geelong have become masters of it as have Richmond.
He barracks for the Hawks.
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Re: Three things I've learned-Round 9 v Geelong
1. We have too many passengers & lost the will to win at all costs
2. Contested ball no longer our strength, no longer the hunter, seem content to let opposition win the hard ball
3. Our stars can't cope with the added attention, the Bont can't dominate like he did