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WB Game Day V Melbourne R19 2021
Margin:
First goal:
Best on ground:
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Melb by 19 pts
First goal - weightman
Bog- macrae
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Dogs by 14
First goal: JJ
BOG: Macrae
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Dogs by 4 points
First goal: Bruce
Best on ground: The Bont
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Silver lining of the fixture being switched is we're not playing in Ballarat on Saturday. Forecast is 7 degrees (which is about 2 degrees in real terms) and absolutely pi**ing down!
No idea how our game will go. After each loss, the Demons have played a top 8 team the week after and beaten them.
Last time Melbourne let Cordy stand in the pocket to be the outlet option from kick ins and we constantly took the bait. If that happens again, we're in trouble.
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Surely JJ plays as a defensive forward on Salem?
Hopefully JJ has the composure to take his opportunities in front of goal when they present.
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Melbourne are mixed lollies who knows which one will turn up on Saturday. What I do know is that the gap between our very worse and our very best is narrower than theirs but their very best is probably a bit better.
Bulldogs by 4 points
FG Weightman
BOG Bontempelli
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Originally Posted by
1eyedog
Melbourne are mixed lollies who knows which one will turn up on Saturday. What I do know is that the gap between our very worse and our very best is narrower than theirs but their very best is probably a bit better.
Bulldogs by 4 points
FG Weightman
BOG Bontempelli
I would say our best is more exhilarating/higher level, but they've been able to get a lot closer to theirs against the top 8 teams than we have. But it's all elementary anyway, if you can't play near your best against the good sides what's the point?
Big test for Bevo.
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I really wish we weren’t playing them right now with our injury list and the group looking tired, as if they win they get a psychological boost.
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comrade
I would say our best is more exhilarating/higher level, but they've been able to get a lot closer to theirs against the top 8 teams than we have. But it's all elementary anyway, if you can't play near your best against the good sides what's the point?
Big test for Bevo.
It would be nice to play one of the top teams with something like our best team... makes it hard to play your best when you don't have your best cattle on the field.
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1eyedog
Melbourne are mixed lollies...
I think Melbourne have turned up every time they have been challenged.
Have they dropped some games against lower teams? Sure they have. But put a top 8 opponent on the menu and they have been brilliant.
I don't like predicting outcomes but without Martin, Dunks and Treloar I'm really not sure how we win this. The case for us would be (of course) Liber is rested and has a 'Liber game' and Naughton is better for the run. I think Melbourne's kryptonite is an opposition forward who can get May and Lever guessing by actually clunking a couple...the trouble is, no-one has been able to do it.
Over to you Aaron.
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mjp
I think Melbourne have turned up every time they have been challenged.
Have they dropped some games against lower teams? Sure they have. But put a top 8 opponent on the menu and they have been brilliant.
I don't like predicting outcomes but without Martin, Dunks and Treloar I'm really not sure how we win this. The case for us would be (of course) Liber is rested and has a 'Liber game' and Naughton is better for the run. I think Melbourne's kryptonite is an opposition forward who can get May and Lever guessing by actually clunking a couple...the trouble is, no-one has been able to do it.
Over to you Aaron.
Agreed Melbourne have been very good when it has mattered and I'm really worried about the fluency with which they move the ball. The games they've dropped are clearly related to some kind of mental road block but when it counts they come to play. If we can get on top early I think that's our best chance. Perhaps putting scoreboard pressure on them early can sew the seeds of doubt.
As Comrade says much of this will be won or lost in the box.
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Mantis
It would be nice to play one of the top teams with something like our best team... makes it hard to play your best when you don't have your best cattle on the field.
A plus is that they haven't played against us this year with Dunks and Treloar....hope he makes it this year...in our team. A nice surprise for them in the finals.
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One difference v last time we played them is that now Melbourne have lost multiple games (plus the draw) since we have more data/game play to analyse and work from to devise a winning plan. No excuses for us to fall into the same traps as our last game and I expect a MUCH better performance.
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comrade
One difference v last time we played them is that now Melbourne have lost multiple games (plus the draw) since we have more data/game play to analyse and work from to devise a winning plan. No excuses for us to fall into the same traps as our last game and I expect a MUCH better performance.
Plus they've brought in Ben Brown and THEBIGBULLJACKVINEY so they're a lot further off full strength than when we played them last time.
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Heard ON THE COUCH last night that Salem has gone from one of the best defenders earlier in the year to be ranked 62nd now.
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The other positive is we couldn't possibly have as bad a first quarter as we did last time....could we?
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Axe Man
The other positive is we couldn't possibly have as bad a first quarter as we did last time....could we?
We'll know within the first 20 seconds if last time was anything to go by!
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Happy Days
Plus they've brought in Ben Brown and THEBIGBULLJACKVINEY so they're a lot further off full strength than when we played them last time.
I'm hoping Viney continues to get sucked into every contest possible.
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Axe Man
The other positive is we couldn't possibly have as bad a first quarter as we did last time....could we?
The turnovers in that first quarter were horrendous, leading to the first four goals and the difference for the night.
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Adelaide are coming to Victoria after all given SA’s lockdown - can we switch this back AFL?
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The Pie Man
Adelaide are coming to Victoria after all given SA’s lockdown - can we switch this back AFL?
Makes perfect sense the flee the state with 5 cases for the one with near 100. The lack of consistency across the various State Government rules is crazy.
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Axe Man
Makes perfect sense the flee the state with 5 cases for the one with near 100. The lack of consistency across the various State Government rules is crazy.
SA government obviously weren't going to give the AFL any exemptions to let Pies/Hawks into the state, so the AFL with its bulldozer policy are just like '*!*!*!*! it, let's play them in Victoria'
HGA or even a hint of competition integrity is obviously no concern for the AFL now.
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comrade
SA government obviously weren't going to give the AFL any exemptions to let Pies/Hawks into the state, so the AFL with its bulldozer policy are just like '*!*!*!*! it, let's play them in Victoria'
HGA or even a hint of competition integrity is obviously no concern for the AFL now.
Let's get the games done, we have a premiership to fight for.
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bornadog
Let's get the games done, we have a premiership to fight for.
The AFL are making it up as they go... changing the order of games is ridiculous given the planning clubs would've done in managing player game times, etc. and the advantages that come from finishing positions at the end of the H&A season.
We shouldn't be playing Melbourne this weekend.. Understand the clubs position, but hopefully they're making their feelings known.
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Originally Posted by
comrade
SA government obviously weren't going to give the AFL any exemptions to let Pies/Hawks into the state, so the AFL with its bulldozer policy are just like '*!*!*!*! it, let's play them in Victoria'
HGA or even a hint of competition integrity is obviously no concern for the AFL now.
The fact that the Crows and Power weren't allowed to train, even before they announced the lockdown forced their hand too I would think.
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Axe Man
The fact that the Crows and Power weren't allowed to train, even before they announced the lockdown forced their hand too I would think.
AFL pulled the trigger way too fast on this round.
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comrade
AFL pulled the trigger way too fast on this round.
Don't worry, I just caught the press conference from the new AFL general manager of football operations and I am convinced.
https://i.postimg.cc/wTrnwP9J/image.jpg
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comrade
AFL pulled the trigger way too fast on this round.
They should have waited till today when all the press conferences were happening.
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bornadog
They should have waited till today when all the press conferences were happening.
Yep.
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I am normally very-anti the AFL. Very easy to think of problems/hard to go with solutions. I'd be intrigued to hear some of the latter, things the AFL should be doing, risk/benefit wise.
I am 100% with them in that the show needs to go on. Political allegiances aside, national approach isn't Australia's thing with Covid. This could get a lot worse and the year will be over before vaccination rates help enough. Do we really risk the cataclysmic financial loss of TV $? I am genuinely interested to hear options.
With fixtures, I feel they were trying to get in as early as they could. I think something we are all struggling to grasp to different levels is this simply often does change by the hour. Of course that is not excusing poor decisions but changing your mind within a couple of hours can be par for the course in Covid World.
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If it weren't a business, I'd definitely pause it by the way.
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Rocco Jones
I am normally very-anti the AFL. Very easy to think of problems/hard to go with solutions. I'd be intrigued to hear some of the latter, things the AFL should be doing, risk/benefit wise.
I am 100% with them in that the show needs to go on. Political allegiances aside, national approach isn't Australia's thing with Covid. This could get a lot worse and the year will be over before vaccination rates help enough. Do we really risk the cataclysmic financial loss of TV $? I am genuinely interested to hear options.
With fixtures, I feel they were trying to get in as early as they could. I think something we are all struggling to grasp to different levels is this simply often does change by the hour. Of course that is not excusing poor decisions but changing your mind within a couple of hours can be par for the course in Covid World.
Without crowds there will be no memberships. Without memberships there will be no clubs. Without clubs there will be no competition. That's not to even talk about TV revenues and other not insignificant corporate considerations.
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Rocco Jones
If it weren't a business, I'd definitely pause it by the way.
It's strange that my kids are home foregoing an education but footy matches are going ahead. I mean, I'm glad they are I love the Bulldogs, but there is a lot of noise this time around from the non-football loving community saying pull the plug.
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Sedat
Without crowds there will be no memberships. Without memberships there will be no clubs. Without clubs there will be no competition. That's not to even talk about TV revenues and other not insignificant corporate considerations.
Same applies to every business that has been forced to shut down.
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1eyedog
Same applies to every business that has been forced to shut down.
AFL estimate they have lost $600 million in revenue.
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Sedat
Without crowds there will be no memberships. Without memberships there will be no clubs. Without clubs there will be no competition. That's not to even talk about TV revenues and other not insignificant corporate considerations.
I agree. I guess I am viewing this more as a bad vs worse argument. No doubt continuing with no crowds, disrupted fixture etc is a 'bad' scenario. I feel pausing it might be worse though as it could get a lot worse meaning no season at all, this a killer with TV rights.
I hear the people saying pausing it or we don't like what the AFL are doing. But what's the plan? I get venting, frustration, I do a lot of it, you follow me on social media so know that ha! But what's the viable alternative? I am legit ready to listen and have my mind changed as believe me, I don't love this option.
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Rocco Jones
I agree. I guess I am viewing this more as a bad vs worse argument. No doubt continuing with no crowds, disrupted fixture etc is a 'bad' scenario. I feel pausing it might be worse though as it could get a lot worse meaning no season at all, this a killer with TV rights.
I hear the people saying pausing it or we don't like what the AFL are doing. But what's the plan? I get venting, frustration, I do a lot of it, you follow me on social media so know that ha! But what's the viable alternative? I am legit ready to listen and have my mind changed as believe me, I don't love this option.
If it gets that bad, a 1 week pause now to survey the lay of the land amidst 3 states in lockdown will have no impact on whether the season goes ahead or not.
But the pause may allow the season to continue with some integrity if the situation doesn't escalate.
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Originally Posted by
Rocco Jones
I agree. I guess I am viewing this more as a bad vs worse argument. No doubt continuing with no crowds, disrupted fixture etc is a 'bad' scenario. I feel pausing it might be worse though as it could get a lot worse meaning no season at all, this a killer with TV rights.
I hear the people saying pausing it or we don't like what the AFL are doing. But what's the plan? I get venting, frustration, I do a lot of it, you follow me on social media so know that ha! But what's the viable alternative? I am legit ready to listen and have my mind changed as believe me, I don't love this option.
I actually agree with you in relation to hoping the AFEL can continue on with the season. But I also agree with 1ED's point in relation to the clear hypocrisy and unfairness of other businesses and industries being forced to shut down at the same time, through absolutely no fault of their own. And the messaging/decisions are being made by people who, to be blunt, have no skin in the game whatsoever - not one mediocre politician/health beurocrat or hyperbolic media public servant in this country has lost one cent of their income in the last 18 months.
The bell-end from SA apparently has announced today that intimate partners are not allowed to visit each other. This gross and disgusting overreach in our private lives by thoroughly mediocre politicians/health beurocrats should never be accepted by anyone.
The question we all need to ask is what is the end-game here? How can footy or any entertainment/hospitality industry with live crowds be able to function in the future? COVID normal is not normal. I fear for the sports/entertainment industry if we cannot revert back to 2019 life. Anything less will be disastrous long term.