Injury related thread for 2021.
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Injury related thread for 2021.
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Riley Garcia unfortunately suffered knee injury in very last session of year.
Lucky Scans have confirmed he Jarred the knee but scans reveal ACL intact. Will be ok with a bit of rest.
That's a relief.
I know nothing about these sort of injuries but does this point to persistent knee issues for Riley?
3 players on our injured list at the moment
McLean with his knee injury.
Hannan with a groin injury.
Garcia with a set back with his knee and it's a slow 6 to 8 week challenge with his progress being monitored
I feel for Garcia his career could be over before it started.
Ominous words by Bell “At this stage, we’re going to gradually progress Riley over the next six-to-eight weeks to get a gauge of how his knee is handling our football program.”
Josh Schache injury update
Key forward Josh Schache sustained an ankle ligament injury during Friday’s match simulation session at training.
Scans have cleared the 23-year-old of any bone damage.
Schache’s management plan and return to play timeframe will become clearer over the coming days, once his ankle swelling improves.
Bloody hell may struggle to play the lead in games. Puts him on the back foot in his last year. Hopefully only a 4-weeker. Devo.
Coming along nicely:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsUJUM9U...pg&name=medium
Stevo reporting: Josh Schache ankle only the lower end of scale. Likely to miss 2-3 weeks of training.
Easton Wood injured his hamstring (low grade) on Monday. WB website reports he will work back into full training over the next 3-4 weeks.
Agreed and quite a few of us expressed this view at the time.
Nothing wrong with year to year contracts for players over 30 who aren't in the top echelon. Hopefully it is just a blip but if he has 2 significantly injury affected seasons the decision to grant him a second year is going to look silly.
Completely disagree. Nothing to do with deserving it. Let's not forget he has just come off a long term lucrative contract, it's not like he hasn't been well rewarded already.
Let's say Libba makes it through another couple of years and goes again but with a knee held together with duct tape, would you be happy to give him another 2 years just because he is a premiership player and a legend of the club?
Increasingly you will find players making decisions entirely in their own best interests like Dunkley. You obviously don't want to make decisions that get the playing group offside but ultimately you have to do what is best for the club.
List management requires tough calls, there is no room for sentiment (although I don't even think this was a tough call - it is pretty standard across the league for a player of Easton's age, injury history and standing within the team - no longer an automatic pick, to receive year to year contracts).
Even if Easton sat the whole year out with hamstring issues I suspect we'd still sign him up for 2022 if he wasn't already. We are the same club that gave Picken an extra year despite him not being able to turn the lights on in his house his concussion issues were that bad. This just saves us the time of having to negotiate another contract.
Besides, if a 30 year old medium defender that is arguably not even best 22 any more and has a long history of soft tissue injuries and who hasn't excelled playing his natural game for at least 3 years isn't worthy of a 2 year contract, who is?
In terms of list management we should be well past the time about caring if players were part of our 2016 premiership and we should just make sound list management decisions. To say he is a legend or a premiership captain and that he deserved a multi year deal because of that is the recipe for below required performances.
In the past 30 was over the hill and I too called for players to be not given extensions etc, but these days players are super fit. We need Wood's experience in the backline as we don't have many down there.
I am happy he gets his two years, but yes could end up a big bust.
Let me put it another way:
Trading in players where we will only get a couple of years for them should be done only if we need them. Stefan Martin is the player we needed to help in the ruck and mentor Tim. So at age 34, I am not too worried.
Smith wasn't a player we needed and therefore at his age ie 31 years old, no point in bringing him in just for a couple of seasons, when we can cover his role.
If he was say 25 and a gun then you can't have too many good players and go for it. I don't rate Smith as a gun, we didn't need him at age 31.
Yes they are fitter at 30 plus, but we need to look after our 30 year olds as they provide the leadership.
Pretty simple really.
Injury update here
Treloar will be ready for round 1 according to this report
Treloar may play on Monday.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/...01-p576u8.html
Dogs play safe with Treloar, No.1 pick 'a fair way off'
Western Bulldogs recruit Adam Treloar is in some doubt for the round one clash against his old team
HIGH-profile Western Bulldogs recruit Adam Treloar remains in significant doubt to face his former team Collingwood in round one.
Treloar, who was forced out in the Magpies' fire sale during last year's AFL Trade Period, has been battling a calf injury for a month.
The 27-year-old has a history of soft-tissue injuries and the Bulldogs are taking a cautious approach with their prized midfielder.
Bulldogs coach Luke Beveridge said Treloar will only play "some minutes" in the reserves practice match on Monday, if at all.
"He'd had a really strong training patch and then he got a cork in his calf and kept running on it. So it turned into something a little bit worse," Beveridge told SEN radio on Wednesday.
"We've got about 12 days until round one (after Monday) and we'll just see how that shapes up."
Treloar might not be the only much-talked-about player missing for the March 19 game against the Magpies at the MCG, with No.1 draft pick Jamarra Ugle-Hagan set to be eased into his promising AFL career.
The prodigiously talented key forward was unable to play any under-age football last season because of COVID-19 restrictions and Beveridge said that meant Ugle-Hagan was coming from a long way back.
"Jamarra will play when he's physically ready and he's a fair way off at the moment," Beveridge said.
The recruitment of Treloar bolsters an already-impressive midfield at the Whitten Oval club that includes captain Marcus Bontempelli, Jack Macrae and Tom Liberatore.
Fellow premiership on-baller Josh Dunkley is still at the club after his trade request to join Essendon fell through.
Dunkley was unhappy at being used in a variety of different positions last year but Beveridge said there was no guarantee the 24-year-old would be back in the midfield full time.
"(Dunkley) didn't play his best game against Hawthorn (last week)," Beveridge said.
"He's fully aware that there's pressure for game time in any role in our team.
"There's pressure on for his (Dunkley's) spot and the role that he plays."
Crozier set for shoulder surgery
Influential defender Hayden Crozier has been ruled out of the Western Bulldogs’ round one clash with Collingwood.
Crozier suffered a shoulder injury in the third quarter of yesterday’s AAMI Community Series win against Melbourne.
Scans have since confirmed an AC joint injury for the 27-year-old, who will require surgery to fix the issue.
A return to play timeframe for Crozier will be determined following his operation.
I'm not convinced Crozier is a big loss. He's a decent player but he isn't good defensively and he isn't an attacking threat. His leap is impressive and handy for sky high balls into D50, but I think it also clouds judgement on his overall game. I've been critical of his propensity to fly when he shouldn't and then be beaten at ground level.
I think he's a solid player but we should be able to cover him with Duryea or Wood.
I think he is one of our few players to have an aerial presence in defence, and is decent one on one (although has a tendency to take himself out of the contest flying for it).
Agree we should be able to cover him with Duryea or Wood, but he is probably the best of those three options (Duryea might be better tbh).
Crozier’s maniacal courage can hurt as much as it helps. He’s really gotta stop trying to spoil the ball from the front of the contest by coming back with the flight and let the relevant defender handle it, because despite how admirable it is he takes himself out of position to clear the ball when it comes to ground, he invariably takes out the other defenders who could defend the ground ball, and his spoils almost always go goal side, putting the ball into the most dangerous space.
I agree that he’s an important player but not a perfect one, and we should be able to cover his loss.
Considering how shit we are at defending the high ball this is a massive loss. Unfortunately Crozier has had to sacrifice his game to be this player and it has meant we have missed out on his natural attacking tendencies, which I guess we try to make up through JJ and Williams.
He will be missed more than we think and I think Wood will need to play his role. Wood needs to step up to cover this loss imo.
PLAYER INJURY ESTIMATED RETURN Hayden Crozier Shoulder TBC Riley Garcia Knee TBC Mitch Hannan Groin TBC Toby McLean Knee 4-5 months Aaron Naughton Arm Test Laitham Vandermeer Hip Test Easton Wood Hamstring 1-2 weeks Updated: Tuesday, March 9
Wood hasn't been ruled out of round one yet but will need to make strides over the next week to be passed fit for the Friday night clash with Collingwood. The Dogs came out of the AAMI Community Series clash with some injury concerns, with Crozier requiring surgery on his shoulder. Naughton and Vandermeer are expected to be available. Hannan has been managing his groin injury since crossing from Melbourne but there is no timeline set. - Callum Twomey