Essendon set to trade pick No.11 as it attempts to secure Jake Stringer, Devon Smith and Adam Saad

ESSENDON on Monday conceded it had to sacrifice its No.11 draft pick to pull off the club’s stunning trade trifecta.

But that pick is no guarantee to land at the Western Bulldogs with the Jake Stringer deal still a long way off.

It is believed the Bombers have urged Stringer, 23, to boost his fitness levels over summer because they want to deploy him for large stints in the midfield next season.

But the 2015 All-Australian faces an anxious wait with trade talks set to continue into next week as the clubs debate his value.

Coach Luke Beveridge’s men on Monday told the Bombers they want pick 11 as a minimum return or they will keep Stringer to his contract next season.

Gold Coast could throw a spanner in the works by claiming pick 11 from the Dons in exchange for speedster Adam Saad and No.19.

Essendon champion Matthew Lloyd on Monday said the Dons could then on-trade the No.19 pick for Stringer.

But that proposal would be rejected by the Dogs, who are adamant on claiming an earlier selection for their three-time leading goalkicker and premiership star.

Bombers football boss Rob Kerr said the club had devised a strategy to secure Stringer, Saad and Devon Smith while keeping homesick South Australian Aaron Francis, who is contracted until 2019.

“(But) the reality is pick 11 probably has to be involved somewhere along the line,” Kerr said on Monday.

“We’ve had a chat to the Bulldogs, I think there’s a little bit of work to do there. But we’re keen to try and get a deal done over the course of the next 10 days, so we’ll keep at it.”

In a boost for the Dogs, on Monday Fremantle high-flyer Hayden Crozier nominated Whitten Oval as his preferred destination.

But the future of ruckman Tom Campbell is unclear. The hardened big man is exploring his options following the arrival of versatile tall and free agent Jackson Trengove.

The Dogs missed out on Port Adelaide speedster Jarman Impey, who is set to be traded to Hawthorn in exchange for a draft pick.

The Hawks’ first selection is No.32.

Kerr said his club held “really fruitful” discussions with Greater Western Sydney as they look to add goalkicker Smith.

Essendon could land the injury-hit forward with a second-round pick and holds No.28 in this year’s draft.

There was minimal interest in Francis from the Crows and Port Adelaide on Monday.

Kerr said the Bombers had done their homework on Stringer amid explosive allegations in the Herald Sun about his personal life.

“Obviously you do your due diligence and we’ve spoken to Jake a number of times,” he said.

“We’re confident Jake can be a very good player for Essendon and we believe our culture is a strong culture and the senior players have bought into it, so it would be a good move for Jake and for Essendon.”

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/af...5d3f0d2049b50c

If we were to lose Campbell then we do need another tall who can rotate through the ruck. Roughead can't go it alone and English needs at least another season. Trengove and Boyd are more just short term fill ins.

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Originally Posted by GVGjr

If we were to lose Campbell then we do need another tall who can rotate through the ruck. Roughead can't go it alone and English needs at least another season. Trengove and Boyd are more just short term fill ins.

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Need to rookie a mature ruck, seeing they can play from round 1. Griffin or Clarke could be some cover.

We won't except less than pick 11 then goes to say they are doing swaps that will end up with them offering 19.
Contradicts itself badly.

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Originally Posted by bulldogtragic

Need to rookie a mature ruck, seeing they can play from round 1. Griffin or Clarke could be some cover.

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What's to say we don't use Jong ,we did last year and look at the Tigers this year.
Do you need so many on your list nowadays?

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Originally Posted by bulldogtragic

Need to rookie a mature ruck, seeing they can play from round 1. Griffin or Clarke could be some cover.

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Worth considering but I'd say it's unlikely though. I'd like to keep Campbell unless we had something coming back that assists in that area.

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Worth considering but I'd say it's unlikely though. I'd like to keep Campbell unless we had something coming back that assists in that area.

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So Trengrove will be doing minimal rucking?

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What's to say we don't use Jong ,we did last year and look at the Tigers this year.
Do you need so many on your list nowadays?

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I'm more talking about injury insurance. I don't want Bonts rucking, no Dunks and coming off an ACL no to Jong either. If I was Campbell I would follow Honey and look for a fresh start else where. So a mature rookie for a year or two until English is ready, isn't too bad a solution in case Roughy gets another rare injury.

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Originally Posted by Ghost Dog

So Trengrove will be doing minimal rucking?

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Trengove should be seen as adding to that depth not replacing a full time ruckman.

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What's to say we don't use Jong ,we did last year and look at the Tigers this year.
Do you need so many on your list nowadays?

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Roughead injured round 1. ACL, year over.

What's the plan now?

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I'm more talking about injury insurance. I don't want Bonts rucking, no Dunks and coming off an ACL no to Jong either. If I was Campbell I would follow Honey and look for a fresh start else where. So a mature rookie for a year or two until English is ready, isn't too bad a solution in case Roughy gets another rare injury.

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I tend to agree, sure the players you mentioned can take the odd throw in around the ground but we need to use the likes of Boyd and Trengove before planning on a Bontempelli taking the centre square contests.
If Schache was to arrive, then you might have enough cover but that would still just leave us with one full time ruckman in Roughead who does struggle with injuries from time to time

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Roughead injured round 1. ACL, year over.

What's the plan now?

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This is why I was challenging our approach during the trade time 12 months ago. We should have replaced Minson with someone who could take a turn in the ruck and it didn't have to be a full time ruckman type.
As it was we started the season with injuries to both Roughead and Campbell and Campbell rucked the start of the season under done.

I don't see a problem with having some insurance.

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This is why I was challenging our approach during the trade time 12 months ago. We should have replaced Minson with someone who could take a turn in the ruck and it didn't have to be a full time ruckman type.
As it was we started the season with injuries to both Roughead and Campbell and Campbell rucked the start of the season under done.

I don't see a problem with having some insurance.

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I believe at the time I was in agreement with you but came around to the clubs way of thinking over the Summer.

After this year it perplexes me that people are saying we have enough or too much depth in the ruck. We have at least one rookie spot available so I also see no harm getting a mature state player or Zac Clarke for example even as a break in case of emergency type.

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Need to rookie a mature ruck, seeing they can play from round 1. Griffin or Clarke could be some cover.

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Ex Demon Jake Spencer is available - I'd be looking at offering him a rookie contract.

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Worth considering but I'd say it's unlikely though. I'd like to keep Campbell unless we had something coming back that assists in that area.

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If Campbell could stay on the park we wouldn't be having this conversation. But we have to decide on whether we gamble on his durability. We did this year and got burned. Will it be any different next year?

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Originally Posted by ledge

We won't except less than pick 11 then goes to say they are doing swaps that will end up with them offering 19.
Contradicts itself badly.

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Its Essendon arrogance. They will try to bully the trade and then claim that we refused to deal. If they trade 11 then Stringer stays

How the hell is Campbell described as 'hardened'? The bloke is put together with crepe paper and balser wood.

Read (The Age) that Essendon looking at offering Pick 11 plus pick 46 for Stringer and pick 26. That may get it done.

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Read (The Age) that Essendon looking at offering Pick 11 plus pick 46 for Stringer and pick 26. That may get it done.

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It would be a great result for Essendon but a poor result for us.

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Read (The Age) that Essendon looking at offering Pick 11 plus pick 46 for Stringer and pick 26. That may get it done.

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No thanks.

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Read (The Age) that Essendon looking at offering Pick 11 plus pick 46 for Stringer and pick 26. That may get it done.

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Nope.

*Walks away, doesn't talk to Essendon until the next day.

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Read (The Age) that Essendon looking at offering Pick 11 plus pick 46 for Stringer and pick 26. That may get it done.

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Hope JMac laughs out loud when Dodoro presents that to him, gets up and walks away from the table.. and says 'pick 11 Dodo by tomorrow or else he's staying. No counter offers. Thats it. Take it or leave it but you won't waste anymore of our time.'

Foxsport saying pick 11 going to GWS for smith

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/bom...b0338637a29db2

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Foxsport saying pick 11 going to GWS for smith

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/bom...b0338637a29db2

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Then Jake stays or up steps another suitor.

Jake Niall reporting pick 11 to GWS for Smith and a couple of second rounders.

http://bit.ly/2g3l3QM

Yep that appeals to be a done deal. Smith to Essendon for pick 11 with 2nd rounders going back to GWS

And the Stringer negotiations are officially over (to me)

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Yep that appeals to be a done deal. Smith to Essendon for pick 11 with 2nd rounders going back to GWS

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If we wanted 11 for Jake seems unlikely Essendon can manufacture an acceptable deal now 11 is gone.

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If we wanted 11 for Jake seems unlikely Essendon can manufacture an acceptable deal now 11 is gone.

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The only way is with their 2018 first rounder.

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The only way is with their 2018 first rounder.

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They could finish higher next year. I'd only do that with their pick 29 this year or a suitable player.

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If we wanted 11 for Jake seems unlikely Essendon can manufacture an acceptable deal now 11 is gone.

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The only way is with their 2018 first rounder.

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Or Daniher (I wish!)

It's not over yet, there is a bit more to play out here.
Essendon now have a 2018 2nd round pick and two 2nd round picks this year. Colyer likely to be going to WA.

There could still be a trade with Richmond

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It's not over yet, there is a bit more to play out here.
Essendon now have a 2018 2nd round pick and two 2nd round picks this year. Colyer likely to be going to WA.

There could still be a trade with Richmond

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So Stringer for 17? I'd hope not.

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So Stringer for 17? I'd hope not.

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I'd say 17 and a 2nd rounder for next year is a chance.

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I'd say 17 and a 2nd rounder for next year is a chance.

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What a putrid outcome. Yet again we become trade chumps.

Looks to me like Essendon called our bluff.

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What a putrid outcome. Yet again we become trade chumps.

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Or they accepted they can't satisfy everyone's demands and made their choices. We have no obligation to accept their offers

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Looks to me like Essendon called our bluff.

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Hopefully we are not bluffing.

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I'd say 17 and a 2nd rounder for next year is a chance.

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That would be a bloody awful trade IMO. Not sure we could sell that as a win

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That would be a bloody awful trade IMO. Not sure we could sell that as a win

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Yep, you can't sell that anything other than us pulling our own pants down.