Kane Cornes says Marcus Bontempelli will overtake Dustin Martin and Patrick Dangerfield

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Former Port Adelaide midfielder Kane Cornes says Marcus Bontempelli can be better than both Dustin Martin and Patrick Dangerfield.
Bontempelli lit up Marvel Stadium with a superb showing against the Swans in Round 1.


The silky-skilled midfielder had 29 disposals, seven tackles, six inside-50s and booted a goal in a best-afield performance.


Cornes said the 23-year-old, along with Carlton co-captain Patrick Cripps, would overtake Martin and Dangerfield by the end of the 2019 season.

“I think there’s two midfielders that could overtake Dustin Martin and Patrick Dangerfield as the best midfielders,” Cornes told the AFL Footy Show.


“By the end of this year, Marcus Bontempelli and Patrick Cripps will be the game’s best midfielders — by the end of this year.




“Dangerfield is gonna be great, they’re both gonna have great games — Martin and Dangerfield — it’s nothing against them.


“But Dangerfield’s gonna be 29 next month, Martin’s nearly 28.


“Marcus Bontempelli, you see him there in the matchwinning performance in Round 1, he’s 23 years of age, would you believe.”


There is no doubting Bontempelli is a sensational talent.


The smooth-moving Bulldog is one of the coolest, most composed midfielders in the game, while his height and power make him a genuine forward option when Luke Beveridge wants to flick that switch.

As for Cripps, the Carlton on-baller was All-Australian last year, averaging 17.3 contested possessions, 7.6 clearances and 29.6 disposals in 2018.


He picked up where he left off, with 32 disposals, 22 contested possessions and eight clearances against the Tigers in Round 1.


While fellow panellist Brendan Fevola queried Cornes’ high rating of Bontempelli, the former Port Adelaide midfielder held firm, citing the classy Bulldog’s elite kicking.


Bontempelli now has 105 games to his name — and at just 23, is arguably still a fair way off his prime.


That makes him a seriously scary prospect, especially when you consider the likes of Martin and Dangerfield both have close to double his AFL experience.


“I just think he’s the best kick … by the end of the year, I’m telling you, Marcus Bontempelli will overtake them,” Cornes said.

Preaching to the converted.

Bont doesn't want to be either of these guys. He's a different kind of player.
Dalrymple hit the jackpot by going for the longer reach of Bont.
I Think Bont does a little less than these two but does it sublimely. He's so efficient with his movement.
Less of a burst player than a precision weapon.

Hes's already overtaken Dusty this year. Dusty was average in round 1 and had a stinker last night.

Now that throat-high fend-offs are out he's lost a major part of his arsenal and teams put a lot of work in how to tackle a player attempting to fend off now. He got caught by smaller players in round 1 now that tackling technique is being enforced.

Fully agree Mofra. It absolutely baffles me that people like Fev dont rate Bont highly.
He does more with 20 possessions than others do with 30.

He hit a pass to Gowers last week that travelled 55m and never went more than eight feet off the ground. It was the most beautiful thing I've ever seen.

David King tweeting De Goey will be better than the lot. :D:D:D:D

De Goey maybe a good forward but won't overtake the Bont as a midfielder.

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Originally Posted by Happy Days

He hit a pass to Gowers last week that travelled 55m and never went more than eight feet off the ground. It was the most beautiful thing I've ever seen.

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I remember that clearly. We were looking at each other in the stand, it was an incredible kick.

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Originally Posted by Mofra

I remember that clearly. We were looking at each other in the stand, it was an incredible kick.

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He does stuff like that every few weeks. He is incredible. One of the biggest problems has been that our forwards dont mark the damn ball or kick the goal after it.

I wouldn’t trade Bont for any other player in the league but I might be shameless fanboy.

Is there anyone you’d swap him for?

Bont is supreme. He does things no one else can, moves like no other. If all you look at are the stats, you miss out on the artistry and deadly effectiveness.

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I wouldn’t trade Bont for any other player in the league but I might be shameless fanboy.

Is there anyone you’d swap him for?

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Given his age, no

For the 2019 season, maybe Gawn

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Originally Posted by boydogs

Given his age, no

For the 2019 season, maybe Gawn

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No way

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Originally Posted by Happy Days

He hit a pass to Gowers last week that travelled 55m and never went more than eight feet off the ground. It was the most beautiful thing I've ever seen.

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Gilbee spec.

Hopefully he has a season injury free
He was clearly restricted last season

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Originally Posted by boydogs

Given his age, no

For the 2019 season, maybe Gawn

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I don't mind your thinking but if we took Bont out and replaced him with Gawn, would we be better or worse? I'd say worse.

The player comparison I often hear is Cripps vs Bontempelli.

Most work colleagues lean towards Cripps but it's almost line ball

If Cripps was as good as Bont Carlton would win more games. That's the influence Bont has when fully fit and firing. Cripps can play a great individual game but there's only so much he can do to drag his team across the line. Bont has found ways to make us win in the past and could probably even find a way to do so at Carlton so his skill and matchwinning ability makes him the better player

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If Cripps was as good as Bont Carlton would win more games. That's the influence Bont has when fully fit and firing. Cripps can play a great individual game but there's only so much he can do to drag his team across the line. Bont has found ways to make us win in the past and could probably even find a way to do so at Carlton so his skill and matchwinning ability makes him the better player

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Yeah, Cripps stands out at Carlton because a) he is obviously a jet, b) he is ****ing massive, and c) he has been surrounded by garbage his entire career. Easy to catch the eye (and Brownlow votes).

Bont is a different beast all together. Less powerful but more versatile and intelligent. You'd be happy with either, but I'm happier with the Bont. Kelly is the other one who sits comfortably amongst these two.

You have to laugh at Essendon fans who once believed Merrett was on the same level.

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Yeah, Cripps stands out at Carlton because a) he is obviously a jet, b) he is ****ing massive, and c) he has been surrounded by garbage his entire career. Easy to catch the eye (and Brownlow votes).

Bont is a different beast all together. Less powerful but more versatile and intelligent. You'd be happy with either, but I'm happier with the Bont. Kelly is the other one who sits comfortably amongst these two.

You have to laugh at Essendon fans who once believed Merrett was on the same level.

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What do you mean 'once believed'?
Some still do!

Last week was a reminder of what he could do and a stark warning for what is to come.

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Originally Posted by comrade

I don't mind your thinking but if we took Bont out and replaced him with Gawn, would we be better or worse? I'd say worse.

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Bont is best in the midfield but because our forward line has been weak, we have played him there a lot, as we have a strong midfield to cover him there. Gawn dominates the ruck and can take marks up forward and in defense, he would be a huge upgrade for us in that area. All about the marginal improvement based on your next best option

Cripps and Bont are different players. One is a churn or transactional player, the other isn't and has to play CHF a lot of the time anyway.

Play Cripps for Carlton like we play Bont, the latter's output would be better. Play Bont like Carlton play Cripps, I reckon the Bont would be more effective and influence games more.

But, that's just me having watched him closely, and Cripps not so much.

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Originally Posted by comrade

Yeah, Cripps stands out at Carlton because a) he is obviously a jet, b) he is ****ing massive, and c) he has been surrounded by garbage his entire career. Easy to catch the eye (and Brownlow votes).

Bont is a different beast all together. Less powerful but more versatile and intelligent. You'd be happy with either, but I'm happier with the Bont. Kelly is the other one who sits comfortably amongst these two.

You have to laugh at Essendon fans who once believed Merrett was on the same level.

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Agree Cripps looks good because he is the only decent mid Carlton have and they can't get the ball.

The Bont has to contend with guys like Macrae who averages 30 plus a game, Libba, Hunter etc etc who are all ball magnets.

I hate this argument. They're both awesome. Just be happy they're both awesome and let people enjoy things.

Why is the general person's first reaction to anything great to say that it's not as good as something else. No wonder everyone is so miserable.

Cripps and Bont are great players and different players.
I rate them both highly as the best in the competition.

SuperCoach score records aren't the best way of judging a player. That said, Bonts broke his career record last week (156 points). Today he broke that (158 points).

Fitness, and Libba & Dunks doing heavy lifting is certainly helping him.

Libba really has made a massive difference he is also in all Australian form too.

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Fully agree Mofra. It absolutely baffles me that people like Fev dont rate Bont highly.
He does more with 20 possessions than others do with 30.

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Who cares what an old drunk like Fev thinks? Just because Fevola could play the game at an elite level doesn't mean he can analyze it or even talk a minimal amount of sense about it.

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Originally Posted by comrade

I wouldn’t trade Bont for any other player in the league but I might be shameless fanboy.

Is there anyone you’d swap him for?

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No way.

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Originally Posted by boydogs

Given his age, no

For the 2019 season, maybe Gawn

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I reckon Tim English will be playing at an elite level long after Max Gawn has hung up the boots. English will be a better player by the end of 2020.

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Originally Posted by Happy Days

I hate this argument. They're both awesome. Just be happy they're both awesome and let people enjoy things.

Why is the general person's first reaction to anything great to say that it's not as good as something else. No wonder everyone is so miserable.

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Its a competitive game. Ive never rated Martin-he had a good year in 2017 (probably one of the best individual seasons of all time) and dragged Richmond to a flag but its been downhill since then and his best days are now behind him, especially since they have removed his ability to go the Don't Argue. Marcus will win more awards and play in more premierships and rate above Martin on every objective metric by the end of their careers.

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Originally Posted by Twodogs

Who cares what an old drunk like Fev thinks? Just because Fevola could play the game at an elite level doesn't mean he can analyze it or even talk a minimal amount of sense about it.

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He is literally getting paid for his opinion so unfortunately plenty of people care