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Stringer needs to “really commit” to dogs, says teammate
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Jake Stringer needs to give a "full commitment" to the Western Bulldogs if he wants to stay at the club next season, according to teammate Mitch Wallis.
Stringer still has a year to run on his contract at Whitten Oval but it was reported on Channel Nine's The Footy Show on Thursday night that the premiership star is exploring a trade after falling out with the Bulldogs.
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Wallis wants Stringer to stick with the Bulldogs but conceded doubt surrounded his future after agreeing there was a "disconnect" between the 2015 All-Australian forward pocket and the club this year.
"He (Stringer) is working through it, I think he wants to stay a Bulldog, they've given him every opportunity for the last four or five years but it's still up in the air and he still has to really commit to the club because they want a full commitment from him and not one where he's unsure," Wallis told SEN on Thursday.
"He had a couple of injuries late in the year which obviously made it hard for him because he hadn't had a great year form-wise.
His 24 goals from 16 games in the Bulldogs' failed premiership defence was Stringer's lowest output since his 2013 debut season - far down from his career-best 56 majors two years ago.
"I want him to stay, obviously that's the priority, and he's a contracted player but I still think that they have things they have to work through," Wallis said.
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Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
Gonski
What do you expect Wallis to say?
He sounded honest to me.
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Originally Posted by
bornadog
What do you expect Wallis to say?
He sounded honest to me.
I agree, not sure the reading between my lines is. I think Stringer is gonski.
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Originally Posted by
bornadog
What do you expect Wallis to say?
He sounded honest to me.
Usually they say much more positive things. That is a pretty stinging appraisal from Mitch.
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I think Mitch spent considerable time crafting that statement and made a good fist of it.
Jake must be going through hell personally; split-ups are never easy, especially where young kids are involved. That problem may dominate his thoughts constantly with the rest of his life back-burnered. Akin, I think to a mental health issue to a degree: I don't mean to be over-simplifying, this is a complex issue.
All the club can do is to assist him in any way possible to making a decision that is his alone and the club accepting that.
Like everyone else, I'd be rapt if he can make a "stay" decision.
Far too many fond memories of a champion player.
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Yeh thats a load less positive than I would like. Thats basically saying Jake's not putting in and we've had enough.
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Perfectly set up to give Stringer a lot of hard truths.
Bevo comes in and does what Bevo does best.
Results in Stringer staying and consistently fulfilling his potential for the next 8 years.
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azabob
Perfectly set up to give Stringer a lot of hard truths.
Bevo comes in and does what Bevo does best.
Results in Stringer staying and consistently fulfilling his potential for the next 8 years.
There are rumours going around that its Bevo driving this. He wants him gone.
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bulldogsthru&thru
There are rumours going around that its Bevo driving this. He wants him gone.
Where have you read that?
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bornadog
Where have you read that?
I was told it. Normally i wouldn't believe any of this sort of thing but the same person told me about this supposed bust up before the story broke. Needless to say i didn't believe them but here we are.
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Rumours are just rumours. A lot at the moment is going around right now.
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That's a pretty strong statement by Wallis. I like it.
Put up or move on, Jake. His teammates have obviously had enough of his lack of effort on & off the field.
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STEVEN KING: Kingy spoke on behalf of the group during a Leading Teams session. He told Gaz he didn’t work hard enough and while he was playing well, he could be so much better. Gaz didn’t like it. He left the meeting and didn’t speak to Kingy for a little while. In hindsight it clearly was the best thing that could have happened. He took the feedback on-board and used it positively, as it was intended to be, and proved to us that he had what it took. The change in his game was instant. I think Gaz would now look back and thank Kingy and Leading Teams for helping steer him in the right direction and which undoubtedly helped turn him into a legend of the game.
A quote from an article by Paul Chapman about Gary Ablett Jr before GAJ's 300th game. It's talking about the Leading Teams inspired dressing down of GAJ and the aftermath.
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STEVEN KING: Kingy spoke on behalf of the group during a Leading Teams session. He told Gaz he didn’t work hard enough and while he was playing well, he could be so much better. Gaz didn’t like it. He left the meeting and didn’t speak to Kingy for a little while. In hindsight it clearly was the best thing that could have happened. He took the feedback on-board and used it positively, as it was intended to be, and proved to us that he had what it took. The change in his game was instant. I think Gaz would now look back and thank Kingy and Leading Teams for helping steer him in the right direction and which undoubtedly helped turn him into a legend of the game.
A quote from an article by Paul Chapman about Gary Ablett Jr before GAJ's 300th game. It's talking about the Leading Teams inspired dressing down of GAJ and the aftermath.
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Western Bulldogs trading Jake Stringer would be absolute madness, writes Sam Edmund
THIS is the Western Bulldogs’ Steve Johnson moment.
Geelong was a shambles in late 2006 and flicking Johnson was set to be part of a shake-up at the Cattery.
Johnson, like Stringer, was a mercurial, yet slightly wayward young forward.
Johnson, like Stringer, was 23 years old.
Rewind 11 years and ‘Stevie J’ was seen as something of a bad egg. He broke his ankle jumping off a roof trying to get back into a Torquay hotel in 2003.
In late 2006 he was arrested for public drunkenness in Wangaratta, ostracised by the club and not allowed to play seniors until Round 6.
Collingwood were going to trade for Johnson in ‘06 but were put off by the medical report.
But the penny dropped in spectacular fashion and six months later Johnson was a Norm Smith Medallist and premiership player.
Trading Stringer would be pure madness.
We all know why he’s had a tough 12 months. Off the field, as a young father he’s battled personal problems and been forced to deny “bulls ...” rumours.
On it, he’s been bothered by injuries.
But this is an All-Australian forward and No. 5 draft pick history says is yet to reach the peak of his powers.
If the Dogs can’t get around him and make him feel happy again, especially with the man management messiah Luke Beveridge in charge, it’s an indictment on the club.
For the key to the Western Bulldogs replicating Hawthorn in recovering from a 2009-style premiership hangover is keeping its young matchwinning stars together.
There’s no doubt Stringer is one of those.
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Axe Man
Western Bulldogs trading Jake Stringer would be absolute madness, writes Sam Edmund
THIS is the Western Bulldogs’ Steve Johnson moment.
Geelong was a shambles in late 2006 and flicking Johnson was set to be part of a shake-up at the Cattery.
Johnson, like Stringer, was a mercurial, yet slightly wayward young forward.
Johnson, like Stringer, was 23 years old.
Rewind 11 years and ‘Stevie J’ was seen as something of a bad egg. He broke his ankle jumping off a roof trying to get back into a Torquay hotel in 2003.
In late 2006 he was arrested for public drunkenness in Wangaratta, ostracised by the club and not allowed to play seniors until Round 6.
Collingwood were going to trade for Johnson in ‘06 but were put off by the medical report.
But the penny dropped in spectacular fashion and six months later Johnson was a Norm Smith Medallist and premiership player.
Trading Stringer would be pure madness.
We all know why he’s had a tough 12 months. Off the field, as a young father he’s battled personal problems and been forced to deny “bulls ...” rumours.
On it, he’s been bothered by injuries.
But this is an All-Australian forward and No. 5 draft pick history says is yet to reach the peak of his powers.
If the Dogs can’t get around him and make him feel happy again, especially with the man management messiah Luke Beveridge in charge, it’s an indictment on the club.
For the key to the Western Bulldogs replicating Hawthorn in recovering from a 2009-style premiership hangover is keeping its young matchwinning stars together.
There’s no doubt Stringer is one of those.
I agree with this fully.
Many of our list were down on last year, and not many of them were battling the personal problems Jake was. He's an out and out superstar in the making, we just need to do everything in our power to help him get there.
Comparisons with other players are great, but I think the real point is that footy clubs are made up of all sorts of blokes and in the end they aren't robots.
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My take from Wallis's comments is that we have offered Stringer a contraction extension to stay at the Kennel beyond 2018, but have possibly included some caveats regarding performance and attitude and the $ figure might be about the same, or even less than what he's currently on. Stringer finds this insulting and doesn't want to commit.
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From SEN
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David Schwarz has detailed what occurred in an end of season exit meeting which has led to reports that star forward Jake Stringer has fallen out with the Western Bulldogs and could be set to depart the club.
Last night, Channel Nine’s The Footy Show reported that the 23-year-old is considering his future after becoming unhappy at the Bulldogs.
Schwarz said that Stringer’s yearly season review meeting with Bulldogs coaches and key staff is the reason why he may be wearing different guernsey in 2018.
“Jake Stringer had an exit meeting with the Western Bulldogs and was pretty confident that when he walked in there that there’s been some extenuating circumstances for some of the things that have gone on this year, so he walked in rather confident that things would be alright,” Schwarz explained on SEN’s The Run Home.
“Half way through the meeting things broke down severely, he walked out and was very, very, very annoyed and upset about what was said.
“A lot of home truths were said about his preparation, his training, his rehabilitation, the way he has presented himself to the club – often late, and a myriad of other things.
“No doubt they are a long way apart at the moment, the Western Bulldogs and Jake Stringer."
Schwarz said that there is already one club who is interested in obtaining the 2016 premiership forward’s services.
“North Melbourne (have) a lot of interest towards Jake.”
Stringer has kicked 160 goals in 89 career matches after being selected at pick six in the 2012 draft, but has suffered from a slump in form over the past 12 months and averaged just 1.4 goals per game this season — his lowest output since 2014
Wallis knows this and that is why he says it is up to Stringer.
The thing is if he cracks the shits, does he think it will be any better at another club. The coach will demand the same from him. It comes down to whether you take your football seriously. Talent alone doesn't get you to be elite, you need to work hard at anything, and he will reap the rewards if he does.
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Problem is we have a very young group and winning the flag at 20-24 years of age at a club of our history and being adored by the fans can make you think your king of the mountain, I don't think it's the clubs fault or the players , it's immaturity, lets face it at that age and you win a flag who wasn't out going berserk ?
The club needs to be strong and hopefully these young guys mature and see that it's a decade journey not one year.
I feel sorry for Jake and his family , that's hard stuff to get over, but I'm sure the club would understand all this and it's more the things he can control that he isn't than the uncontrollable they are worried about.
I hope he calms down and realises his full potential is through hard work, desire, hunger and the will to win at any cost.
We all know Jake is a very special player and could be anything if his head is right.
He also needs to realise that what we are asking from him is the same as any other club he goes to will be asking for. I hope we can work this out and he stays.
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Originally Posted by
bornadog
What do you expect Wallis to say?
He sounded honest to me.
Yeah I tend to agree BAD. Stringer certainly has been out of form and I know he has had issues outside of footy to deal which has probably played a role in his form drop but when you are a player at a footy club and you paid you need make the effort and put in 100% for the team each week. Hopefully he knuckles down this pre season and can really apply himself in 2018 as we know he has a heap of talent.
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Not really feeling this one. Seems a stock standard, harsh exit interview was had. Jake's either going to sulk or realise his potential by really seeing what his uber talented body can produce after an enormous pre season.
The initial soul searching and leaning on mates is inevitable. It's the subsequent, longer term reaction that counts. If that is sulking, let's trade him. If it's to go for broke, then great. But someone had to deliver ver a blunt message and it seems we did - which is pleasing.
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To be honest he couldnt be playing golf with a more dedicated bloke than Mitch Wallis .. That's an upside and if he is hanging out with the right players and Mitch told him just buckle down mate ( which it seems has happened) . That's a good thing , now what we want is Jake to train with blokes like Mitch in the off season, keep him focussed and on the straight and narrow. Blow some smoke up his arse , tell him how good he can be but tell him to follow your lead.
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Assuming all this is reasonably accurate, is anyone else concerned at how public this has become so quickly. Was Jake on the phone to journos the minute he stepped out telling them how ****ed off he is. Seems every man and his dog knows what went down in the meeting.
More leaks than the Titanic down at the club at the moment. Where's PG?
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Originally Posted by
comrade
Assuming all this is reasonably accurate, is anyone else concerned at how public this has become so quickly. Was Jake on the phone to journos the minute he stepped out telling them how ****ed off he is. Seems every man and his dog knows what went down in the meeting.
More leaks than the Titanic down at the club at the moment. Where's PG?
Maybe he punted the garbage can that Barrett was hiding in on the way out?
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Originally Posted by
comrade
Assuming all this is reasonably accurate, is anyone else concerned at how public this has become so quickly. Was Jake on the phone to journos the minute he stepped out telling them how ****ed off he is. Seems every man and his dog knows what went down in the meeting.
More leaks than the Titanic down at the club at the moment. Where's PG?
Journos everywhere especially out the front of clubs doing exit meetings, wouldn't be hard to pick up what's going on.
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Worse case scenario . Stringer goes , it would take an awful lot to get him.
Nth on the radar .. Would we take pick 4 ? Would they offer it ?
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Some of the tripe dished up is just incredible .
There's some friction between McCartney and Darymple according to the grub ( Barrett) amazing what you can glean living in a rubbish bin . Then there's David Schwartz saying Stringer has walked out on the club . Pretty big difference being annoyed at an exit meeting and walking out on the club . Then he said there's outside issues . Have the courage of your convictions and say what they are
That's the issue now there's so much opinion and comment that they just say anything .
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Remi Moses
Some of the tripe dished up is just incredible .
There's some friction between McCartney and Darymple according to the grub ( Barrett) amazing what you can glean living in a rubbish bin . Then there's David Schwartz saying Stringer has walked out on the club . Pretty big difference being annoyed at an exit meeting and walking out on the club . Then he said there's outside issues . Have the courage of your convictions and say what they are
That's the issue now there's so much opinion and comment that they just say anything .
They are experts at saying things that are very vague but insinuate things so the social media goes into hysterics.
Jealous of the premiership after all the tripe they laid On us when the Griffen off season walk out happened so it's kind of a revenge thing they have waited to jump on
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I just wish PG would come out and give the loyal fans some sort of optimistic comment instead of letting us get media bashed and leave us all in the lurch, making it worse.
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7 sport saying the Cats could be an option for Jake and that he is really on the outer and we are going to put him on the trade table. Once again more rumours to keep us wondering.
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Eastdog
7 sport saying the Cats could be an option for Jake and that he is really on the outer and we are going to put him on the trade table. Once again more rumours to keep us wondering.
Nothing worthwhile to trade. No salary cap room. I see the fact checker was made redundant, and some time ago.
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Send him to the Gold Coast for Tom Lynch & Peter Wright
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Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
Nothing worthwhile to trade. No salary cap room. I see the fact checker was made redundant, and some time ago.
It's not like you to close the door :) I mean this in the nicest possible way but as WOOF's List Manager, you need to get to work.
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Let's face it every club will be linked to Stringer and it wouldn't be right for a club not to ask the question.
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My god I hope he stays just to make all these so called experts walk around with egg on their face for months.
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From dusty to Jake and we know how the dusty thing worked out.
And not one media person admit being wrong about him signed and gone to north.
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Stringer has kicked 160 goals in 89 career matches after being selected at pick six in the 2012 draft, but has suffered from a slump in form over the past 12 months and averaged just 1.4 goals per game this season — his lowest output since 2014
Stringer was pick 5
There's obviously something to this given Wallis' comments, but not convinced he is definitely going
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Originally Posted by
comrade
Assuming all this is reasonably accurate, is anyone else concerned at how public this has become so quickly. Was Jake on the phone to journos the minute he stepped out telling them how ****ed off he is. Seems every man and his dog knows what went down in the meeting.
More leaks than the Titanic down at the club at the moment. Where's PG?
Amazing isn't it. Probably only a couple of people in the meeting yet everyone knows everything.
I go by the old saying believe nothing you read and half of what people tell you