Could the Bulldogs end up winning the Jake Stringer trade?

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Originally Posted by dog town

Apart from the off field issues Stringer is still struggling with the same issues he had previously.

1- a liability in transition. Watch him on a turnover
2- goes to the back of the pack all the time now. He wasn’t doing this early days and he seems to avoid contact unless he is initiating it. This started mid 2016
3- Poor pressure and repeat efforts. Means when they have all of their talls playing they have a massive lack of pressure.
4- He doesn’t know when to release the ball. His tackle breaking is s huge asset but once he draws players he should release the ball.

Not the only one with these flaws but he will be a tease if he can’t iron some of them out.

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H's been a bit tentative since that shoulder injury I reckon. He used to use his shoulder to bullock his way through opposition players but since he hurt it he actively avoids contact.

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Originally Posted by dog town

Apart from the off field issues Stringer is still struggling with the same issues he had previously.

1- a liability in transition. Watch him on a turnover
2- goes to the back of the pack all the time now. He wasn’t doing this early days and he seems to avoid contact unless he is initiating it. This started mid 2016
3- Poor pressure and repeat efforts. Means when they have all of their talls playing they have a massive lack of pressure.
4- He doesn’t know when to release the ball. His tackle breaking is s huge asset but once he draws players he should release the ball.

Not the only one with these flaws but he will be a tease if he can’t iron some of them out.

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He conceded to Cam Mooney after a game last year he can barely bend over for fear of tearing another hammy. One of his big strengths in 2015 was his 'burst'

Unless he gets ripping fit and sheds bad habits he's had for 3 + years, he'll only ever be a handy player for Essendon.

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Originally Posted by The Pie Man

He conceded to Cam Mooney after a game last year he can barely bend over for fear of tearing another hammy. One of his big strengths in 2015 was his 'burst'

Unless he gets ripping fit and sheds bad habits he's had for 3 + years, he'll only ever be a handy player for Essendon.

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Has been ordinary since 2015.

Didn't realise we were losing.

I loved Jake and hope it works out for him personally. However, he was a mess & wasn't doing what we needed from him. We moved on pretty quick.

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Originally Posted by dog town

Apart from the off field issues Stringer is still struggling with the same issues he had previously.

1- a liability in transition. Watch him on a turnover
2- goes to the back of the pack all the time now. He wasn’t doing this early days and he seems to avoid contact unless he is initiating it. This started mid 2016
3- Poor pressure and repeat efforts. Means when they have all of their talls playing they have a massive lack of pressure.
4- He doesn’t know when to release the ball. His tackle breaking is s huge asset but once he draws players he should release the ball.

Not the only one with these flaws but he will be a tease if he can’t iron some of them out.

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You forgot to add injury-prone. Apparently, he has just broken down again with some sort of toe or possibly heartstring ailment.

In all seriousness, I was so excited by Jake in his early days I made the call he'd be a top 5 player in the comp. After 2015 that call looked pretty good, but he's been pretty average since. Some flashes of brilliance but the same issues which hampered him in 2016 still hampered him in 2019.

For a guy with so much talent, skill, strength and speed he should be so much better.

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Originally Posted by The Bulldogs Bite

In all seriousness, I was so excited by Jake in his early days I made the call he'd be a top 5 player in the comp. After 2015 that call looked pretty good, but he's been pretty average since. Some flashes of brilliance but the same issues which hampered him in 2016 still hampered him in 2019.

For a guy with so much talent, skill, strength and speed he should be so much better.

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+1.

Do you remember the first goal he kicked in the NAB cup game? I remember rewinding it on FOX and watching it back a few times and was pretty damn excited about him.

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Originally Posted by The Adelaide Connection

+1.

Do you remember the first goal he kicked in the NAB cup game? I remember rewinding it on FOX and watching it back a few times and was pretty damn excited about him.

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That was Jake's problem...

He got pretty damn excited about Jake Stringer too.

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Originally Posted by comrade

That was Jake's problem...

He got pretty damn excited about Jake Stringer too.

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So much so that not working on the basics, his fitness or becoming a student of forward craft to mix his game up a little is what's holding him back when things aren't entirely on his terms.

Teams worked out in 2016 that if you get body on him early, make him contest aerially rather than from behind and limit his leading space he's relatively ineffective most of the time.

As others pointed out
Stringer put himself in the departure lounge in 2017
He plays a bit on his own terms IMHO

I think he can put it all together, but the defensive side of his game isn't instinctive. He can do it though - 14 tackles in his first two games for Essendon. As time wore on his attacking instincts took over and hois tackling dropped off.

If 2015 hadn't happened people would probably be happy with his game, the issue is he's a good player who once looked set to be a star.

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Originally Posted by Mofra

I think he can put it all together, but the defensive side of his game isn't instinctive. He can do it though - 14 tackles in his first two games for Essendon. As time wore on his attacking instincts took over and hois tackling dropped off.

If 2015 hadn't happened people would probably be happy with his game, the issue is he's a good player who once looked set to be a star.

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Malthouse got into him in his first season at essendon for his non defensive forward pressure

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Originally Posted by Mofra

I think he can put it all together, but the defensive side of his game isn't instinctive. He can do it though - 14 tackles in his first two games for Essendon. As time wore on his attacking instincts took over and hois tackling dropped off.

If 2015 hadn't happened people would probably be happy with his game, the issue is he's a good player who once looked set to be a star.

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But he doesnt need to put on 7 tackles a game to be good. Just needs to actually care and he doesnt have the fitness to do that.

When he is switched on he is a terrific player. Yes he has some deficiencies but we learned to accept them when he played for us.

Most Essendon fans that I know think he's been good enough

He is always capable of so much more but he may never get to that level

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Originally Posted by Topdog

But he doesnt need to put on 7 tackles a game to be good. Just needs to actually care and he doesnt have the fitness to do that.

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He is actually a lazy player, so training, effort, intensity just not there. When he was younger he relied on his freakish skills to get him through games, but now he can only apply those skills when he gets the easy ball. Still good for probably 25 to 30 goals a year, but he has teased us and we thought he would be an absolute star.

Currently, A good ordinary player at best.