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Always Right Match Committee Rd 19 vs Fremantle
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Always Right
If you were on the Western Bulldogs match committee what changes would you make for our Round 19 games against Fremantle?
For those new to these threads, please give a brief explanation for your changes ... this would add a lot of value to the discussion.
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bulldogtragic
No change.
Haha.
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comrade
Haha.
We ironically laugh now...
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Schache with concussion may be an issue
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I'm still pretty pissed off but I'd start with dropping Cordy for Dale Morris (and not Lewis Young).
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Out Schache (inj?) Cordy Trengove R Smith Suckling
In Lewis Young Sweet Morris West Jong
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Out: R Smith (surely they have seen enough to know he is not up to it), Cordy, Suckling.
In Morris, Lewy Young and West or Jong
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Yep, if Schache is out play English forward and then Sweet vs Sandilands.
Sweet's lack of mobility will not be a worry.
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I think Trengove, Schache, and Suckling (probably dropped anyway) might have some injuries that could present some issues.
Maybe Trengove will be ok, I think he copped a knee in the ribs.
Based on that.
All I know is that Dale Morris has to come in, and I think West needs to get reward for several good weeks. However I think given Hayes was the match day emergency, he might get a guernsey, and I'm not in favour of that.
Outs
Again not definitive, but Cordy surely needs a spell for Morris.
Surely Schache will not be right after his knock, but who can fill his role? Could Lewis Young be a shot? He can fill some minutes in the ruck like Schache does, and has played forward as a junior?
And if Suckling is not injured, he has to be dropped. Maybe Lachie Young come in for him?
Does anyone in the midfield cop it for this week. Lipinski did stuff all, could West come in for him?
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So Schache out. I like Dry Rot’s idea with Sweet in and English up forward
Do we rest Bont. Clearly injured. West to come in surly.
Morris to come in for Cordy.
Happy to give Naughton time in. He back 50 and swap with Trengrove if needed.
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Out- Cordy (been bloody lucky to have played all year), Schache, Roarke Smith
In- Morris, West, Sweet
English going to need some help next week against Freo - should spend a chunk of time forward too.
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Out: Cordy, Schache if he doesn't come up
In: Morris, Roberts (played well today)
Trengove into the ruck, English limited time in the ruck, swapping with Trengove,
I am tempted to get rid of Roarke, but too many changes.
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Originally Posted by
Bumper Bulldogs
So Schache out. I like Dry Rot’s idea with Sweet in and English up forward
Do we rest Bont. Clearly injured. West to come in surly.
Morris to come in for Cordy.
Happy to give Naughton time in. He back 50 and swap with Trengrove if needed.
Let’s hope West’s attitude is better than that!
But seriously, I want to see him given a chance next week. :)
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Bullies
Out: R Smith (surely they have seen enough to know he is not up to it), Cordy, Suckling.
In Morris, Lewy Young and West or Jong
I would add JJ to your players to be dropped. He has been poor for most of the year as he was again today.
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Nuggety Back Pocket
I would add JJ to your players to be dropped. He has been poor for most of the year as he was again today.
Yes agreed. JJ gave away two important goals in the 1stQtr. Not taking the game on. Sorely lacking in confidence.
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Originally Posted by
bornadog
Out: Cordy, Schache if he doesn't come up
In: Morris, Roberts (played well today)
Trengove into the ruck, English limited time in the ruck, swapping with Trengove,
I am tempted to get rid of Roarke, but too many changes.
Schache got hurt just in front of me and I couldn’t understand why trainers were not with him immediately.
He should be out for a few weeks, he didn’t know where he was and could not stand up or walk properly.
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I’m overseas and didn’t watch the game. I listened to the first half and then went back to enjoying my Italian holiday.
We can’t drop everyone and make wholesale changes.
We need to understand our best 25 going forward, are B Dale, R Smith and Glorious Tory part of it? If not make the call.
Otherwise changes for injury with Mighty Moz, b wiiliams and the son of the west to come in.
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I suspect there might be two changes with 3 an outside chance
With Schache a likely out for a few weeks our lack of KP depth on the playing list is really being tested
The ins to come from Roberts, Hayes, West, Lachie and Lewis Young.
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Danjul
Schache got hurt just in front of me and I couldn’t understand why trainers were not with him immediately.
He should be out for a few weeks, he didn’t know where he was and could not stand up or walk properly.
I saw him come to the interchange bench barely able to stand up.
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There’s been a lot of discussion about teams sacking coaches before they play the Dogs.
But there are other similarities between those losses.
1. Short backline syndrome: 3 or more backmen trying to spoil at the same contest, leaving only Saints in the clear 5m from the pack. This led to a number of goals.
2. The Dogs played 10m closer to the boundary line. Sitting behind the goal square this was very obvious. It led to
more handballs, and under pressure,
less margin for error when kicking to teammates
and slower movement forward.
3. Partly because of point 2 the forward entries were often shallow and wide. Only Dale and Dickson were confident kicking at goal. Others tried to pass in a crowded area and turned the ball over.
4. English and Naughton spent a lot of time 30m from goal watching teammates kicking the ball wide (away from them). By the time the ball came in their direction they were in a pack and the kick was too high.
None of these observations have any to do with opposition coaches but all helped us lose.
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GVGjr
I suspect there might be two changes with 3 an outside chance
With Schache a likely out for a few weeks our lack of KP depth on the playing list is really being tested
The ins to come from Roberts, Hayes, West, Lachie and Lewis Young.
Lewie could barely walk properly a couple of weeks ago, I don't think he'll be ready for a couple of weeks.
West looks ready, can we move Lippi forward a bit more and add west tot he midfield rotations? Libba also spent time forward.
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bornadog
I saw him come to the interchange bench barely able to stand up.
Schache’s injury highlights a problem with how the game is/was managed. He took a long time to get up, obviously didn’t know where he was, eventually staggered towards the bench 100m away. On his way the play followed him. If he had collected the ball and been tackled while concussed the severity of his injury would have been magnified.
The game should have been stopped.
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Originally Posted by
GVGjr
I suspect there might be two changes with 3 an outside chance
With Schache a likely out for a few weeks our lack of KP depth on the playing list is really being tested
The ins to come from Roberts, Hayes, West, Lachie and Lewis Young.
And Morris must be and in I would think G.
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Mofra
Lewie could barely walk properly a couple of weeks ago, I don't think he'll be ready for a couple of weeks.
West looks ready, can we move Lippi forward a bit more and add west tot he midfield rotations? Libba also spent time forward.
Wouldn't mind West having a crack as a forward. A lack of forward pressure has been a theme through the year.
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Originally Posted by
Danjul
Schache’s injury highlights a problem with how the game is/was managed. He took a long time to get up, obviously didn’t know where he was, eventually staggered towards the bench 100m away. On his way the play followed him. If he had collected the ball and been tackled while concussed the severity of his injury would have been magnified.
The game should have been stopped.
The whole incident with Schache was a sham both from the Umpires and the slowness of our training staff to react. The incident occurred close to where we were sitting and he obviously was in a great deal of distress. It was a blight on our game in what could have led to further complications to Schache’s health.
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He also had a blood nose so should have told the umpire to stop for the blood rule
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Bullies
He also had a blood nose so should have told the umpire to stop for the blood rule
To be fair to Josh, I don't think he was totally aware what was going on...his team-mates should have told the umpire though.
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Bullies
He also had a blood nose so should have told the umpire to stop for the blood rule
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mjp
To be fair to Josh, I don't think he was totally aware what was going on...his team-mates should have told the umpire though.
I read on Twitter that Mick Malthouse on 774, called him soft for not going up for the ruck contest, after he got up.
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Bullies
He also had a blood nose so should have told the umpire to stop for the blood rule
Schache was not capable of telling anyone anything. I have never seen any football player in such a disoriented state.
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bornadog
I read on Twitter that Mick Malthouse on 774, called him soft for not going up for the ruck contest, after he got up.
If I remember correctly Schache was on his hands and knees for a while after the play had moved on. He was obviously trying to remember how to stand up. He needed a few attempts. I hope he can do it properly now.
Malthouse should offer a public apology. What a disgrace!
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After what happened to Picken, I'd rest him for the rest of season.
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Originally Posted by
Danjul
If I remember correctly Schache was on his hands and knees for a while after the play had moved on. He was obviously trying to remember how to stand up. He needed a few attempts. I hope he can do it properly now.
Malthouse should offer a public apology. What a disgrace!
That fake macho commentary style infuriates me. Brereton also recently dredged up the “it’s a mans game” mantra because Lachie Neale asked to see a doctor because of blurred vision. Our game is brutal. It takes quite enough of a physical toll without that stupid kind of questioning of the masculinity of those that literally risk their lives out there.
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The bulldog tragician
That fake macho commentary style infuriates me. Brereton also recently dredged up the “it’s a mans game” mantra because Lachie Neale asked to see a doctor because of blurred vision. Our game is brutal. It takes quite enough of a physical toll without that stupid kind of questioning of the masculinity of those that literally risk their lives out there.
Game is a lot tougher now than when those cowards played - king hitting when the player wasn't looking.
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The bulldog tragician
That fake macho commentary style infuriates me. Brereton also recently dredged up the “it’s a mans game” mantra because Lachie Neale asked to see a doctor because of blurred vision. Our game is brutal. It takes quite enough of a physical toll without that stupid kind of questioning of the masculinity of those that literally risk their lives out there.
Don't get me started. Young women get forced to live a world where an online world (Insta especially) pressures them to impossible and not real standards. Then these fools try to tell young men that 'real masculinity' is risking your health unnecessarily. Except in EJ Whitten Legends week where these jerks hypocritically tell all men that they should go to the doctor for a preventative appointment (which all men should do). I'm dreading when the enevitable early deaths from concussion start happening and what these jerks will say and how that will drive impressions of young men to put them in an unacceptable position of risk or not - or maybe they can die a honourable man's death, gallant to the end.
I'm so glad I don't have to grow up in this day and age and try to make sense of everything around me and my place in it.
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In the mix: Who's pushing for selection in round 19?
Western Bulldogs
Get them in: Father-son draftee Rhylee West was best on ground in Footscray's 37-point win over Sandringham. Returning forward Billy Gowers started slowly but worked his way into the match and finished with two goals. Premiership defenders Dale Morris and Fletcher Roberts were rocks in defence for Footscray and gives the Bulldogs options to combat Fremantle's tall forwards this week.
Under the pump: It was the Dogs' first loss in a month but with the experience in reserve there will be some changes. There will be pressure on defender Zaine Cordy, while Luke Beveridge lamented how easily the Saints were able to move out of defence, so the spots held by Roarke Smith and Bailey Smith, who combined for just one tackle on the weekend, could also come under the microscope.
Medical room: Josh Schache sat out the last quarter after suffering a concussion but he remains in the mix to face the Dockers this week. Matt Suckling received treatment on his hip during the loss to the Saints but played out the game. Ed Richards was rested last week with hamstring tightness but is expected to be available for this week.
Toyota WorkHorse Verdict: West, Morris and Richards to come in for Cordy, Suckling and Roarke Smith. - Josh Schonafinger
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I'd drop Suckling and maybe give Schache the week to rest. One of West or Gowers up forward (West really if I'm being honest) and Lewis Young in to either cover Trengove's move forward, to play the forward ruck role or play forward and swing back when Trengove rucks.
If Schache's cherry ripe then maybe Young in for Cordy?
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In what was our worst performance of the year against St Kilda the MC needs to refocus its attention on looking to 2020 by rewarding players who have been performing well in the VFL. Following 3 disappointing seasons it is time to refocus our approach. I would prefer to take a radical approach to selection rather than be content with what is currently being shown.
For these reasons I would make the following changes:
In. Sweet West B Williams Lew and Lach Young and Richards
Out. Schache (inj) Suckling R Smith Cordy Johanissen and Liberatore who has struggled for most of the year and would be better off spending some time in the VFL.
Schache should be rested following his heavy head knock.
Supporters are justifiably frustrated with our indifferent performances now in its third season and deserve better. The whole Football department needs to lift its game.
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Oh good, Lyon & his club are copping a concerted public blowtorch this week.
That sounds helpful.