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Always Right Match Committee Rnd 10, vs North Melbourne
Welcome to the Always Right Match Committee Thread. The Match Committee threads has been named after long time WOOF member Always Right who tragically passed away in March 2018.
If you were on the Western Bulldogs match committee what changes would you make after our Round 9 match against Geelong for our Round 10, 2019 match against North Melbourne at Marvel Stadium?
For those new to these threads, please give a brief explanation for your changes ... this would add a lot of value to the discussion.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 10, Vs North Melbourne
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Rnd 10, vs North Melbourne
Shack for gowers
Williams for young
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Rnd 10, vs North Melbourne
In : Williams, Dale, English, Lipinski
Out : Young, Gowers, Roberts, Hayes
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Originally Posted by
The Pie Man
In : Williams, Dale, English, Lipinski
Out : Young, Gowers, Roberts, Hayes
This
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Thought Young did ok but agree on Hayes
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I'd be dropping Wood before Young, but hes captain so it aint happening.
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Hopefully English is right to go, wouldn't mind trying Trengove forward, Gowers and Hayes aren't cutting it
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Rnd 10, vs North Melbourne
In: Dale, Lewis Young, English
Out: Hayes, Gowers, Roberts
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Rnd 10, vs North Melbourne
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Originally Posted by
The Pie Man
In : Williams, Dale, English, Lipinski
Out : Young, Gowers, Roberts, Hayes
Agree
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Rnd 10, vs North Melbourne
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Originally Posted by
Rocco Jones
In: Dale, Lewis Young, English
Out: Hayes, Gowers, Roberts
No Lipinski?
Surely he deserves an opportunity.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Rnd 10, vs North Melbourne
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Originally Posted by
Mantis
No Lipinski?
Surely he deserves an opportunity.
I forgot Bailey Williams for Lachie Young. Yeah, I've wanted Lipsinki in for ages but have kind of given up on him getting a game. Gowers really has to go even if we don't know who replaces him forward. He is such a liability.
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Out : GOWERS (Please i'd be happy to play one short); Hayes (How does he get in before Lippa and Dale . A good seconds footballer at best); Roberts (Looks like there is a reason he hasn't been picked for 2 years); Young (will make the grade but needs a spell)
In: Williams, English, Dale and Lippa
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Rnd 10, vs North Melbourne
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Originally Posted by
Rocco Jones
In: Dale, Lewis Young, English
Out: Hayes, Gowers, Roberts
l didnÂ’t think Roberts had a good game but he was on one of the best forwards in the history of the game and kept him to 4 goals when a quality team was kicking the ball into his hands (actually Hawkins only had 10 possessions).
I think it was the other 17 Geelong goals that killed us.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Rnd 10, vs North Melbourne
Out: Gowers, Wood and Hayes
In: English, Lipinski and Dale
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Rnd 10, vs North Melbourne
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Originally Posted by
Bullies
Out : GOWERS (Please i'd be happy to play one short); Hayes (How does he get in before Lippa and Dale . A good seconds footballer at best); Roberts (Looks like there is a reason he hasn't been picked for 2 years); Young (will make the grade but needs a spell)
In: Williams, English, Dale and Lippa
Richards also needs a spell. He has talent but it’s been a bad year. He is not getting the ball (only 7 possessions today) and is not making progress.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 10, Vs North Melbourne
Tom Hawkins (4goals) was bigger and stronger than his opponent. Geelong also had resting ruckmen (4 goals) dropping back to take marks close to goal. Their 2 ruckmen also contributed 40 hitouts. Trengove made a great contribution but it always seemed like the Dogs were not big enough where size mattered.
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Gowers has gone away from having great hands and lead up to wanting to continually engage in body contact
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In:
Shache, Lipinski, English
Out:
Hayes, Wood, Gowers
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Didn't see Dale play today, but his stats were pretty good with 21 disposals and 3 goals.
In: Dale, English, Lewis Young, Williams
Out: Gowers, Roberts, Hayes and Young
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Rnd 10, vs North Melbourne
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Originally Posted by
The Pie Man
In : Williams, Dale, English, Lipinski
Out : Young, Gowers, Roberts, Hayes
Agree with this but not shattered if Fletch gets another go if English isn't right.
Hayes and Gowers can't play. I feel like I'm going insane watching them play every week with objectively better, younger, more talented guys who are outperforming them in the wings.
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What’s going on with Lynch? Why has he fallen away again after looking so promising at the end of last season?
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Originally Posted by
bulldogsthru&thru
What’s going on with Lynch? Why has he fallen away again after looking so promising at the end of last season?
Hard to say if he just hit a decent run of form when he got his chances last year.
He's no longer the skinny kid that arrived at the club and he has filled out nicely, he moves well and can kick the ball with either foot but he just doesn't get enough of the ball to command a spot.
Perhaps more games in the back line are in order but we do have a number of back flankers on the list already and he's often being asked to play as a forward which makes it harder for him to get a lot of the ball.
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There's no way Suckling is at full fitness, he's come back too early. I'm also expecting English not to return, so I'd bring in Young who has been assisting with the ruck at VFL level to tag team with Trengove.
OUT: Suckling(inj), Hayes, Gowers, Roberts
IN: Williams, Dale, Schache, Young
Lachie Young, Easton Wood and Ed Richards all should not be playing next week, but we won't cut that deep.
Our list is a mess at the moment. We have some talent but so does every club. We lack on every line.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Rnd 10, vs North Melbourne
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Originally Posted by
comrade
There's no way Suckling is at full fitness, he's come back too early. I'm also expecting English not to return, so I'd bring in Young who has been assisting with the ruck at VFL level to tag team with Trengove.
OUT: Suckling(inj), Hayes, Gowers, Roberts
IN: Williams, Dale, Schache, Young
Lachie Young, Easton Wood and Ed Richards all should not be playing next week, but we won't cut that deep.
Our list is a mess at the moment. We have some talent but so does every club. We lack on every line.
I just think we might stick with Roberts until English is fit enough to then allow Trengove to help out in back line. I don't say it with a lot of confidence though.
Suckling was okay against Brisbane but he didn't look great yesterday.
The thing that stands out for me is that for years we all said it was essential to have our own VFL side to develop players and play them in the same manner as the senior side and yet often we appear to have ignored the form of players at Footscray. Now that is more than okay when your senior side is performing strongly but ours has been inconsistent
Lipinski has been in the best players for multiple weeks but doesn't look likely and Williams has had a good few weeks as well.
Trengove was stuck there for few weeks too long
It's perplexing but we are just as likely to pick Sweet after one game back from a longish suspension than we are the players who have been in form
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I dont even want to think what Ben Brown will do to Roberts next week. We need English back ASAP so Trengove can go back.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Rnd 10, vs North Melbourne
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Originally Posted by
comrade
There's no way Suckling is at full fitness, he's come back too early. I'm also expecting English not to return, so I'd bring in Young who has been assisting with the ruck at VFL level to tag team with Trengove.
OUT: Suckling(inj), Hayes, Gowers, Roberts
IN: Williams, Dale, Schache, Young
Lachie Young, Easton Wood and Ed Richards all should not be playing next week, but we won't cut that deep.
Our list is a mess at the moment. We have some talent but so does every club. We lack on every line.
What is wrong with English?
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Originally Posted by
DOG GOD
I dont even want to think what Ben Brown will do to Roberts next week. We need English back ASAP so Trengove can go back.
A normal team would not consider playing Roberts out of position like that. It would have a fullback to play on Brown. Just like it would on Hawkins etc.
Unfortunately playing people in ridiculous roles is the new normal. The concept of specialist is dead.
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Originally Posted by
Doggy
What is wrong with English?
He's missed 2 weeks with general soreness, I think Comrade is suggesting that it might take a bit longer
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I hope the match committee doesn’t focus on the players as these comments do.
The game was lost in the first 5 minutes. Crazy overuse of handball gave Geelong 3 goals which were never made up.
I think the Dogs had 40 more for the match. Many led to turnovers and goals that kept Geelong in front.
The game was lost in the last 20 minutes. Geelong kicked 6 goals to 1. Why did the Dogs run out of gas?
Does the running handball game work with a young small team that is getting physically battered week after week?
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Originally Posted by
Mantis
No Lipinski?
Surely he deserves an opportunity.
Where does he play?
He's racking it up at VFL level as a slow inside mid, doesn't seem an area of need for us.
I'd have Dale in for Hayes as a start, and McLean can run further up the ground so Dale can rotate high forward
English for Fletch, Trengove plays back.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Rnd 10, vs North Melbourne
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Originally Posted by
DOG GOD
I dont even want to think what Ben Brown will do to Roberts next week. We need English back ASAP so Trengove can go back.
Ben Brown sucks now that his finishing move, run at the ball as fast as he can and extend his arms with no chance of marking it to try and win a free, has been adequately scouted. Roberts is likely not up to AFL standard but he'll be fine on Brown.
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Originally Posted by
Happy Days
Ben Brown sucks now that his finishing move, run at the ball as fast as he can and extend his arms with no chance of marking it to try and win a free, has been adequately scouted. Roberts is likely not up to AFL standard but he'll be fine on Brown.
Well, time will tell on that...I hope you’re right and I’m wrong.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Rnd 10, vs North Melbourne
out
gowers hayes young
in Lipinski Williams English or Lewis Young
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Rnd 10, vs North Melbourne
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Originally Posted by
chef
I'd be dropping Wood before Young, but hes captain so it aint happening.
I think we missed a golden opportunity this year in not naming the Bont as captain, what an inspirational player and captain he would be, and I think he would handle the pressure of being a captain easily, lets Woody settle down and just play.
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Originally Posted by
Danjul
A normal team would not consider playing Roberts out of position like that. It would have a fullback to play on Brown. Just like it would on Hawkins etc.
Unfortunately playing people in ridiculous roles is the new normal. The concept of specialist is dead.
Are you saying Roberts is out of position when playing at fullback? Where on Earth is is actual preferred position then? IIRC he played on Patton and Tippett in 2016 in the finals.
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Originally Posted by
Mofra
Where does he play?
He's racking it up at VFL level as a slow inside mid, doesn't seem an area of need for us.
I'd have Dale in for Hayes as a start, and McLean can run further up the ground so Dale can rotate high forward
English for Fletch, Trengove plays back.
Has to play high half forward.
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Outs
1. Will Hayes - hasn't gone right for him since his first AFL game. Go back to the VFL and try to develop some class. Then give it another go.
2. Billy Gowers - gives away too many stupid free kicks. Things just are not getting better. He is not getting smarter with each game. He spoils good attacking moves.
3. Latchie Young - never was ready for AFL. Showed some promise, must have been picked on the basis of his training form.
4. Fletcher Roberts - loses too many one-on-ones. Wasn't good in the VFL to get a senior game in the first place.
IN
1. Patrick Lipinski - replaces Will Hayes.
Showing good form and is smart. Always will be better than Will Hayes.
2. Bailey Dale - replaces Billy Gowers.
Back to some good form. Is a better player than Billy Gowers.
3. Bailey Williams - replaces Latchie Young.
Getting back to some good form.
4. Lewis Young - replaces Fletcher Roberts or Billy Gowers.
Twice as good as Roberts. Also gaining some ruck and forward skills and making fewer blunders.
5. Tim English - if he is fit he comes in.
Then would have to not promote Bailey Dale.
OTHERS
1. E. Wood - will not be dropped as is the captain and don't have a replacement.
2. T. Liberatore - nowhere near his best.
COACH
1. Selection committee - replace these for continual poor team selection. If they pick. Hayes, Gowers and La Young again this week then we have to send them personalised letters. Matter of fact I am going to send them a letter now just to make them realise how stupid they are and in anticipation of them being stupid again.
2. Marking Coach. Who didn't train Tom Boyd to take marks. It was plainly obvious that Tom Boyd had a marking problem when he came to us. Did the coaches work on it in his first season? No. Did they work on it in the second season? No.
3. Backline Coach. Ball watching backline - when the opposition get past our defensive wall and run towards goal, their forwards run back fast. Meanwhile our backs are looking at them coming and not staying on their man. Always a simple ball over the top for an easy goal. Our backline is shocking.
4. Player recruitment - Darcy Fort played for Footscray a few years ago. He looked like a really good player whom you would recruit. Would have picked him in front of others. Now Geelong recruit him and he stars in his first match.
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Originally Posted by
GVGjr
He's missed 2 weeks with general soreness, I think Comrade is suggesting that it might take a bit longer
In Bevo's press conference on Friday, he explained English's injury. Started with a cork thigh, then became bloody beneath the skin and they didn't want to take any risks. We need him back urgently.
Story Here
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Originally Posted by
hujsh
Are you saying Roberts is out of position when playing at fullback? Where on Earth is is actual preferred position then? IIRC he played on Patton and Tippett in 2016 in the finals.
I think Roberts came to the club as a tall half forward, the role Gowers has. Apparently he was a good goal kicker. He filled in for a few games on the full back line and has been stuck there ever since. Why is he trying to control champions who are taller and heavier like Hawkins . That was a match up he was never going to win.
The way Geelong played yesterday I am amazed Hawkins got only 10 possessions and 4 goals.