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AFLX revealed: Who your club plays and when
http://m.afl.com.au/news/2017-11-17/...plays-and-when
AFLX revealed: Who your club plays and when
Nat Edwards
November 17, 2017 4:00 PM
AFL 2017 Round 06 - Essendon v Melbourne
Melbourne and Essendon will be among six teams facing off at Etihad Stadium
AFLX, the League's high-octane version of the sport, will debut on February 15 next year with the AFL including traditional soccer and rugby venues among the venues for three separate round-robin tournaments.
The modified game will be played in three cities across three nights, with six AFL clubs represented in each competition.
AFL.com.au can exclusively reveal that Adelaide will host the first round-robin at Hindmarsh Stadium on a Thursday night, the week before the JLT Community Series begins.
The Crows and Port Adelaide will be joined by Collingwood, West Coast, Fremantle and Geelong in the first ever AFLX tournament.
The fast-paced game will then head to Melbourne's Etihad Stadium on February 16, where the Demons, North Melbourne, St Kilda, Carlton, Hawthorn and Essendon will compete under Friday night lights.
The action then heads north to Allianz Stadium in Sydney on Saturday, February 17 when the Swans, Greater Western Sydney, the Brisbane Lions, Western Bulldogs, Richmond and Gold Coast will face off.
AFLX pre-season fixture
Pool A, Hindmarsh Stadium, Thursday February 15
Adelaide, Collingwood, Fremantle, Geelong, Port Adelaide, West Coast
Pool B, Etihad Stadium, Friday February 16
Carlton, Essendon, Hawthorn, Melbourne, North Melbourne, St Kilda
Pool C, Allianz Stadium, Saturday February 17
Brisbane Lions, Gold Coast, Greater Western Sydney, Richmond, Sydney, Western Bulldogs
AFLX was trialled by North Melbourne during last year's pre-season, while VFL clubs Port Melbourne and Coburg have also experienced the shortened format.
AFL general manager of game development Andrew Dillon said AFLX was an exciting alternative that could be used to take the game overseas.
"AFLX has been created to provide us with the options to play a form of the game in places where oval grounds are limited and to showcase our game internationally at a point in the future," Dillon said.
"Sydney, Melbourne and Adelaide have each been chosen to host the individual tournaments with six clubs playing against each other in a round-robin format.
"The decision to hold three individual tournaments during the men's 2018 pre-season period has been chosen to introduce clubs, their players, their fans and the wider public to the AFLX game,” he said.
All 18 AFL clubs were provided with an AFLX document on Friday afternoon, which outlines the fixture and format of the tournament.
Clubs are yet to be shown a detailed brief of all the rules, but will be informed in due course.
Each AFLX tournament will consist of six teams, divided into two pools of three.
Teams in the same pool will play against each other once, with the top team from each pool facing off in a Grand Final.
Games will consist of two 10-minute halves with a two-minute break at half-time.
AFLX will be played on a rectangular field with dimensions similar to that of a soccer field, with 10 players per team.
It is a seven-a-side format with three players on the bench and there is no limit to rotations.
In order to create a fast and free-flowing game, the last touch out-of-bounds rule has been introduced, while the ball will be kicked in after all scores.
To promote high scoring, the League has also introduced a 10-point super goal for majors kicked from outside the 40m arcs.
Two field umpires will adjudicate the shorter format, while two boundary umpires and two goal umpires will also be required.
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Is this the game we used to play Westdog54? It'd look a lot better with competent footballers playing.
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The game is played on a rectangular soccer-sized pitch, allowing matches to be hosted by stadiums that usually lack the suitable field dimensions for Australian rules football.[1] Other rules unique to AFLX are:[1][2]
- Games consist of two 10-minute halves with a two-minute break at half-time
- Played on a rectangular field with dimensions similar to that of a soccer field
- Seven-a-side format with three players on the bench and no limit to rotations
- Last touch out-of-bounds rule introduced (team that had last touch loses possession)
- The ball is kicked in from full-back after all scores
- 10-point super goals are registered for goals kicked from outside the 40m arc
- No marks paid for backwards kicks (except for kicks/marks inside the 40m arc)
- Free shot from inside the 40m arc to the opposite team in the event of a rushed behind
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Originally Posted by
bornadog
The game is played on a rectangular soccer-sized pitch, allowing matches to be hosted by stadiums that usually lack the suitable field dimensions for Australian rules football.[1] Other rules unique to AFLX are:[1][2]
- Games consist of two 10-minute halves with a two-minute break at half-time
- Played on a rectangular field with dimensions similar to that of a soccer field
- Seven-a-side format with three players on the bench and no limit to rotations
- Last touch out-of-bounds rule introduced (team that had last touch loses possession)
- The ball is kicked in from full-back after all scores
- 10-point super goals are registered for goals kicked from outside the 40m arc
- No marks paid for backwards kicks (except for kicks/marks inside the 40m arc)
- Free shot from inside the 40m arc to the opposite team in the event of a rushed behind
I love everything to do with the Bulldogs but I will be boycotting this attempt by the AFL to spread even further, and in turn diminishing the AFLW matches that will be happening at the same time.
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Originally Posted by
bornadog
The game is played on a rectangular soccer-sized pitch, allowing matches to be hosted by stadiums that usually lack the suitable field dimensions for Australian rules football.[1] Other rules unique to AFLX are:[1][2]
- Games consist of two 10-minute halves with a two-minute break at half-time
- Played on a rectangular field with dimensions similar to that of a soccer field
- Seven-a-side format with three players on the bench and no limit to rotations
- Last touch out-of-bounds rule introduced (team that had last touch loses possession)
- The ball is kicked in from full-back after all scores
- 10-point super goals are registered for goals kicked from outside the 40m arc
- No marks paid for backwards kicks (except for kicks/marks inside the 40m arc)
- Free shot from inside the 40m arc to the opposite team in the event of a rushed behind
Yep, that's fairly similiar to the game that WD54 (and Rocco Jones, MJP, Cyberdoggie, Firstdogonthemoon and some others used to play. Except if the ball touched the ground it was a turnover to the opposite team and you could only kick goals from a set shot.
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Twodogs
Yep, that's fairly similiar to the game that WD54 (and Rocco Jones, MJP, Cyberdoggie, Firstdogonthemoon and some others used to play. Except if the ball touched the ground it was a turnover to the opposite team and you could only kick goals from a set shot.
And you can tackle in this version.
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westdog54
And you can tackle in this version.
I got tackled in our version. A huge airforce guy forgot what game he was playing and ragdolled me. He remembered at about the time he was swinging me above his head and as he threw me into the ground (thankfully a little more gently than he had intended) yelled "oh shit, sorry mate I forgot"
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WTF are the AFL bothering with this rubbish.
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Rather we didn't play, all I can see is players getting injured.
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bornadog
WTF are the AFL bothering with this rubbish.
It's a good example of the old saying: "just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should".
The AfL think that because Rugby has Sevens and Cricket has T20, then they need an abridged version of our game.
Never mind that the other two are on the same sized field and didn't need a radical re-write of the rules or scoring system.
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bornadog
WTF are the AFL bothering with this rubbish.
Kids. Every teenager I have spoken to about AFLX is unbelievably excited about it.
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Additionally, with there only being 2 proper preseason games, this format will mostly be played by the fringe players or draftees to get them a bit more game time and maybe earn a place in the preseason games themselves.
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Can we just play a 1 man team and let Suckers take on all comers?
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KT31
Rather we didn't play, all I can see is players getting injured.
Yeah that's the obviously concern. Something we want to try and change as we have had really bad luck with injuries in recent years and things like AFLX certainly increase the chance. I'm happy none of our players played in the International Rules series.
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Twodogs
Yep, that's fairly similiar to the game that WD54 (and Rocco Jones, MJP, Cyberdoggie, Firstdogonthemoon and some others used to play. Except if the ball touched the ground it was a turnover to the opposite team and you could only kick goals from a set shot.
What was your game called?
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Eastdog
What was your game called?
Ummmm, yeah that's a good question. We just called it touch footy but it had a proper name.
Westdog54 might remember.
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So there's no scope for an exhibition match or SOO (which the huge majority of players want), which is fine, because it 'means little', top players will 'get injured' and clubs won't risk their premiership season campaign and any of their players getting LTI injuries... But this shit is forced onto clubs with the risks above.
If members and fans turn their backs and kill the financial viability or reward of the concept, hopefully we can kill it ASAP. Just when you think the AFEL aren't completely drunk on their own self importance, morally devoid to compete against the AFLW and happy to risk clubs all to turn an extra buck to give themselves even bigger bonuses, they take it up a notch.
The sporting calendar has always worked in my lifetime. Cricket short form, (Hopman Cup, Brisbane & Sydney International, Kooyong) Aust Open tennis, Footy/Rugby preseason, Footy/Rugby Season, Bathurst, Spring Carnival, Cricket Tests - And more recently the A League and AFLW working in with it. Every one gets a bite of the cherry. Everyone works together, and in return they get a turn in the line light and the fans get diversity. Running shotgun over a success system of collaborative efforts between codes and sports is beyond arrogance and pisses on every other sporting management group that gave the AFEL their chance to grow unfettered by encroaching into footy season. I think it's disrespectful to fans and the clubs who have the actual exposure if shit gies sideways, that is player injuries. If the AFEL was a human being, say I met socially, I'd struggle not to punch it in the face and kick it in the arse akin to Satanta O'Hailpin on Cameron Cloke.
Dear Jamie Packer, Andrew Forrest or even Rupert Murdoch. We might just be ready for a super league to take our game away from the AFEL, work well with other sports, stop mindless rule tampering year after year that's ruining the game, stop punishing venue deals still in place, manipulating everything from the fixture to Rising Star winners or even tribunal results, and return the game back to the working folks who aren't placated with a $2 pie as compensation for the AFEL mismanagement. Ch9 & Ch10 would love to get in on footy broadcasting again. I'm sure there's clubs out there sick of it too, there's an opportunity for someone to come in and strike and make a lot of money. Man I'd love to just see the rumblings of thus happening to remind the AFEL they're meant to be custodians of our game, of our traditions and not solely a profit centre to give out to themselves huge wages, huge bonuses, get drunk on self importance bullshit and rooting the young secretaries. So to the AFEL, in the immortal words of Ugly Kid Joe, 'I hate everything about you'.
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Twodogs
Ummmm, yeah that's a good question. We just called it touch footy but it had a proper name.
Westdog54 might remember.
Cyberdoggie called it touch footy.
From this thread #25
https://www.woof.net.au/forum/showth...-WOOFERS/page2
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Unpopular opinion but i don't mind the sound of it. I'm mot exagtly excited by it but i can understand the AFL being keen to catch up with the growing trend of sports offering a smaller version (fast 5 netball, 20/20, rugby 7s etc). It allows the sport to be played overseas more easily and may or may not be fun.
It isnt as if it will replace their core product, like 20/20 has with cricket.
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Twodogs
Ummmm, yeah that's a good question. We just called it touch footy but it had a proper name.
Westdog54 might remember.
The old version was called RecFooty (Recreational Football) and was 8 a side.
The more recent version is called AFL 9s. They've added a player to each team and relaxed the zoning/offside rule.
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westdog54
The old version was called RecFooty (Recreational Football) and was 8 a side.
The more recent version is called AFL 9s. They've added a player to each team and relaxed the zoning/offside rule.
Did we have 3 back, 3 forward and two in the middle?
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Twodogs
Did we have 3 back, 3 forward and two in the middle?
Yep.
There is now 3-3-3, but once the ball is cleared from the ballup anyone can move anywhere.
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soupaman
Unpopular opinion but i don't mind the sound of it. I'm mot exagtly excited by it but i can understand the AFL being keen to catch up with the growing trend of sports offering a smaller version (fast 5 netball, 20/20, rugby 7s etc). It allows the sport to be played overseas more easily and may or may not be fun.
It isnt as if it will replace their core product, like 20/20 has with cricket.
Don't get me wrong, I have loved playing 9s while in Europe and it is a great way to spread our game to an international community. It allows for smaller fields and smaller participation numbers, both of which are major problems over here.
But why exactly they needed to create the new product of AFLX and put it smack bang in the middle of the AFLW is beyond me. IMO the rule changes cheapen it, as my experience says once you get someone involved they love the game for what it is. 9s is an exciting and fast paced game on its own.
I'll be putting my energy and attention towards the women's games.
Side note, if anyone does love the idea of AFL expansion and wants to live in London, AFL Europe are advertising positions at the moment.
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jazzadogs
Don't get me wrong, I have loved playing 9s while in Europe and it is a great way to spread our game to an international community. It allows for smaller fields and smaller participation numbers, both of which are major problems over here.
But why exactly they needed to create the new product of AFLX and put it smack bang in the middle of the AFLW is beyond me. IMO the rule changes cheapen it, as my experience says once you get someone involved they love the game for what it is. 9s is an exciting and fast paced game on its own.
I'll be putting my energy and attention towards the women's games.
Side note, if anyone does love the idea of AFL expansion and wants to live in London, AFL Europe are advertising positions at the moment.
I would have jumped at that 10 years ago... alas.
Realistically. They could have probably achieved the same thing with 10 a side on a standard (possibly narrowed) forks and having 10 minute halves.
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I have no idea why they have made the playing area so dramatically smaller. If anything makes our game different it's the size of the arena it's played on. I can understand all the practical reasons for having a smaller playing field but I would dispute it had to be made that much smaller. It just removes the main Point of difference our game has to offer (a lot of the skills of the game just won't be able to be carried out on a smaller field) and just makes this a crappier version of rugby 7s.
If we had to have AFLX I would have liked to see it played in the bye weekend before the finals started and played between the clubs that didn't make the eight. Make it worth something, winners get 500k or an extra draft pick or something really worthwhile. It's disappointing the AFL have just used it to strangle another competitor of oxygen-I bet the weekend it's on is the same as the Oz open final or the Grand Prix or most likely the A-league grand final. And I would have liked the AFL to really change up the rules. Any player to take the kick from a free kick like in soccer (I've always wanted this in the main game) and that sort of thing. With this they've not made enough changes I reckon.
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It's going to be VFL players going at it early in the preseason, not a separate comp. Preseason has always been a bit gimmicky
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All that's happened is that they've taken away the first week of the JLT Cup or whatever it is and made it a separate event known as AFL X.
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Is the AFLX competition holding any interest for people at the moment?
There are a whole variety of rules different to the normal game including that it will be play on if you kick backwards to a teammate even if he holds the mark except in the forward 40mtr arc. The team that last touches the abll as it goes out of bounds hands over possession. There are super goals as well
7 players on the field and 3 on the bench with unlimited inter changes, 2 x 10 minute halves played on a more or less soccer sized field field.
It will be interesting to see how team set-up for this and if teams will go tall or small.
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Hopefully we only use our fringe players.
A serious injury in this joke comp would give me the shits big time.
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GVGjr
It will be interesting to see how team set-up for this and if teams will go tall or small.
One tall each end of the field I think. Small rucks
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boydogs
One tall each end of the field I think. Small rucks
Apparently North have tried Goldy and Preuss on the ground at the same time. They could throw Brown forward and really stretch teams
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Don't really care about this. I'll watch only the Dogs games and that will be it.
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When I've played 9s on a soccer pitch it is a massive advantage to have a tall to kick it too, but if North play with Brown, preuss and goldy they'll get cut up. The key is speed and agility. It's a small space and they won't be kicking to contests. 15m passes until someone gets a shot for 10 points from 40m, and you have one key forward as a bailout.
As much as the whole gimmick is a joke, the ideal team for me would be something like
FF: Ben Brown (over Daniher for accuracy)
HF: Wingard/Greene/Rioli (basically a quick high pressure forward. No Menzel or Stringer types)
Mids: Merrett (great skills), Kelly (run run run), Danger (he's Danger)
HB: elite skills are the most important trait here - playing on a soccer pitch you can get it straight to your tall forward in one kick. Shaw is a headcase but would be a good fit.
FB: any of Hurley/McGovern/Rance
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No interest in this what so ever.
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Might have a look when the Dogs are playing but otherwise bring on the regular pre season AFL games.
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I love all sports. I will give this a chance,
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Originally Posted by
jazzadogs
When I've played 9s on a soccer pitch it is a massive advantage to have a tall to kick it too, but if North play with Brown, preuss and goldy they'll get cut up. The key is speed and agility. It's a small space and they won't be kicking to contests. 15m passes until someone gets a shot for 10 points from 40m, and you have one key forward as a bailout.
As much as the whole gimmick is a joke, the ideal team for me would be something like
FF: Ben Brown (over Daniher for accuracy)
HF: Wingard/Greene/Rioli (basically a quick high pressure forward. No Menzel or Stringer types)
Mids: Merrett (great skills), Kelly (run run run), Danger (he's Danger)
HB: elite skills are the most important trait here - playing on a soccer pitch you can get it straight to your tall forward in one kick. Shaw is a headcase but would be a good fit.
FB: any of Hurley/McGovern/Rance
I think for us it will be something like
Backs: Adams and Crozier
Mids: JJ, Dale and Trengove
Forwards: Boyd and Dahlhaus
Int: Biggs, Suckling and Hunter
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chef
Hopefully we only use our fringe players.
A serious injury in this joke comp would give me the shits big time.
Wait...We're using our AFL team to play this shitheap game? I assumed there'd be AFLX specialists or something.
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X-factor: The players set to light up AFLX
Western Bulldogs
Brad Lynch: With the Bulldogs yet to establish who will take part in the series, the West Australian appears one player ideally suited to the format. The third-year rookie has explosive pace, elite agility, is a sound kick on both feet and loves to run and gun off half-back. Draftee Ed Richards possess similar attributes, and the defensive playmaker has had a sound pre-season, so the club may ease him into senior footy via the exhibition series. Livewire forward Luke Dahlhaus has a point to prove after an indifferent 2017 campaign, and the 25-year-old should be a natural in this form of the game.
Definite starters: TBA
Definite outs: Roarke Smith
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Let the kids like Richards, Lynch, Lipinski, English etc and fringe types like Gowers, Roberts, Suckling etc run around.
No blue chip best 18 types allowed.