Ins:
Libba, Roughy, Zaine
Outs:
Cloke, Williams, Smith (has a turning circle of a Boeing 777)
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Ins:
Libba, Roughy, Zaine
Outs:
Cloke, Williams, Smith (has a turning circle of a Boeing 777)
Webb can't stay in BT.. Only 12 touches isn't good enough.
Hopefully Stringer is ready to go too.
OUT:
Webb, Hunter, Smith, Suckling
Ins: I will comment tomorrow night
Was weighing up between the two. Williams kicking at times was poor, the banana on the run in the guts in the last for a turnover was horrid. I'd like Webb given that role at HB to see if that changes his impact. His field kicking seems reliable.
He made a couple of bad mistakes, but no more than JJ does most weeks. These guys take the game on and whilst you want them to make more good decisions than bad, you can't punish them for taking the game on.. providing they learn.
I think dropping him now would send the wrong message and hurt his potential.
I think on the whole, in a very tough role to play, he did morr right than wrong.
Hunter was ordinary. Hasn't had a good year either so he might be in trouble.
Hunter must surely get a spell in the two's now. He has had arguably as poor a season as Libba.
Certainly the four that we were carrying tonight BD. Webb I might give one more week given his lack of experience but is also struggling at the level.
Red's second efforts are also a concern and a turning circle of the Queen Mary.
We can't have both Cloke and Redpath. Hopefully Roughy to return next week in place of one of these two.
Can we please call Suckling's name. Sure he can pin point a pass but he can also lose a contest when the ball needs to won. Can't tackle and his defensive game is non existent. His deficiencies out weigh what he does well. I'm surprised he escapes scrutiny.
Good to see no-one simply nominating all the young blokes here. Webb needs to get more of the ball but his kicking is elite.....one kick is worth about four of Clokes. Bailey Williams took the game on but needs to know when to be more conservative....he's a keeper. Bailey Dale was terrific and really looked like he belonged at the top level tonight.
Next week IN (depending on their form with Footscray)
Roughy
Libba
Boyd
OUT
Redpath
Hunter
Suckling
I thought Suckling actually tackled well today, but didn't get enough of it. Will see how tomorrow's game pans out before I pull the trigger on selection.
Biggs for Suckling
Roughie for Cloke
McClean (or Stringer ?) for Smith
Libba for Hunter
Outs: Webb, Dale, Redpath
Ins: Roughead, Libba, McLean
Not having Libba and McLean in tbe team was idiotic.
I thought Cloke was waaaay better than Redpath.
That would be close to my changes but switching Cloke with Redpath. Of course Biggs would have to put in a strong performance in the VFL having addressed his turnovers by foot.
Also love to find a way of getting English in for his first game given his elite skills but not sure how for now.
We still have too many HBF in the team and we were also one KPF too many and one KPD light on. Need to get the balance of the team right.
Frustrating night at the office. Needed to clamp down on Selwood, and Taylor 5 goals FFS - he is cooked as a footballer but we gave him a final send off at that shithole ground. Boy do we need the 4 points next week - stakes are very high.
Not sure where the changes come.
The low possession getters hit the scoreboard which we struggled to do, and the possession accumulators butcher it. Without someone demanding selection I'd go unchanged.
I am of the opinion that if you drop someone, they earn their spot back - like Stringer last year. I wouldn't be rushing Libba/Cordy back - Wallis covered him well.
I think the Cloke/Redders doesn't work. Hunter is in trouble, Suckling as well.
My call - we have partied a little too hard over the off season and too many have come back a little underdone - we are not far away, but just enough to be edged out.
Outs:
Suckling: Has been mediocre at best this season, if he can't find space to use his left foot then he isn't worth playing. He's had over a month to try and do that with no results.
Smith: I like him but he is an all or nothing player. I can see why we have carried him, we have few players capable of kicking 4 goals in a match, but with the return of Dickson and another slow player coming into the team (Roughead) I would drop him.
One of Redpath or Cloke: Cloke did some stupid stuff, but worked really hard in the ruck and was reasonably involved. Redpath was very quiet. Coaches call but I want us to be as mobile as possible and with Roughy coming in we can't play all of Boyd, Redpath and Cloke.
I thought Williams was good, Webb had his moments but needs to do more. Still should get another week, his ball use is valuable enough to keep him in for and with Suckling out in my scenario I want good users.
In:
Roughead: Boyds been good there but he needs help and showed signs this week up forward.
McLean: A tidy half forward who is good for a goal a game and good around stoppages. I think he was dropped as a management thing more than a form thing. I'd expect him to play limited minutes in the VFL
The rest pending performances in the VFL, including Libba.
Obvious last night we can't play all of Boyd, Cloke and redpath once roughie comes back as soupaman said above,
So.....
Out - suckling, hunter, redpath
In- Roberts, McLean, ??
In: Roughead, Libba
Out: Cloke, Webb
If Stringer is good to go, I'd bring him in for Smith.
I tend to agree that Cloke slightly edged Redpath last night but Redpath is a natural goal kicker.
We're struggling to hit the scoreboard so I'm not sure Cloke's better work around the ground outweighs 2-3 goals from Redpath, even if he is anonymous for the rest of it.
Hard to know at the moment, but my changes pre- Footscray game is -
In- Roughead, Cordy, McLean, Stringer
Out - Redpath, Smith, Webb, Suckling
I guess Libba, Boyd and Biggs will be in the mix too.
Bevo sounded pretty disappointed in the presser so I think he will continue to ring the changes until we start performing to the level he expects.
It appears no one feels there is a place for M Boyd any more?
I hope McLean and Roughie return. I'd be more inclined to drop Cloke than Redpath. I maintain that an in form Biggs is a vital player for us and I'd like to see him back.
So I'd be saying in: Rough. MCLean. BIggs. Libba.
OUT: Cloke. Hunter. Smith. Suckling.
We really are having a lot of trouble settling best 22.
The coach is very forgiving with players who aren't quite performing which is good trait but he must be losing some patience with a few of the boys. I don't think we are getting selections right
The first thing I would question is what purpose does dropping McLean and Liberatore for just one week do for the players unless there is something specific they need to focus on and it clicks for them? Liberatore has been down for a while and probably one week won't be enough for him to regain form but if anyone could do it then it's likely to be him.
The second point is would we really rush Cloke into the side after a decent absence and then drop him a week later? It screams of a bit of panic and Bevo doesn't panic
It wouldn't surprise me if there was just one left of field addition to next weeks side.
Good points. I think we made too many changes this week. I wondered if both Dale Morris and Cloke were underdone.
Smith and Suckling have had prolonged periods of poor form though. Can we go into the most important game of th season, as this is shaping up to be, with the former seeming unable to play 4 quarters, and the latter defensively dodgy and the famed leg cannon firing only intermittently?
What a costly loss this was.
Having had a good night's sleep to settle down the anger, I've reassessed my changes.
Some have suggested Stringer comes in.....is he fit to play? I hope so. Assuming he is, here are my changes;
OUT
Redpath......it was either him or Cloke and tha fact it was Cloke's first game back, saves him.
Smith.......has been hanging in by the skin of his teeth. Time to go back to Footscray.
Suckling......two highlights a game versus about six clangers. Patience has ended.
IN
Roughy.......need to get our centre clearance shit sorted.
Stringer.......his explosiveness versus Smith's ploddishness...I think I made that word up.
Biggs.....reckon he gets a nod over Boyd as we need quicker players against the saints
Reckon Bevo will be keen for Libba to earn his spot back, so unless he plays a blinder, he'll get a second week in the magoos. Hunter probably deserves to be dropped but we need him to rediscover his run against the fleet footed saints.
This week is probably the biggest game we've played outside finals in the last few years. Our season is riding on it......or am I being a little melodramatic?
Some of the selections this week were very strange. I understand he needs to make a statement but they were going into a game knowing it was going to be wet and slippery and that the opposition will be a tackling machine after their performance the week before. To leave out our 2 best tacklers Libber and Cordy is bizarre at best. Cordy might not get much of it but he makes the opposition earn it and he would have been the perfect match up for Taylor.