Sad thing is Sam is still the best thing on the show....and he's shithouse.
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Sad thing is Sam is still the best thing on the show....and he's shithouse.
That this thread has been resurrected after a nine year hiatus, with the show running every week of the football season probably says a bit about its impact on reasonable people over that time.
What happened to chops ? The footy shows been stale for over 20 years
Funnily enough,
http://www.theage.com.au/entertainme...20-gxfn7x.html
Couldn't care less, truth be told. I've watched a grand total of 7.5 minutes of that show since I was a teenager (I'm 32). I flicked over one night and the panel were trying to eat onions raw or some tripe. Sam is an absolute dinosaur.Quote:
'Complete sad sack': Sam Newman's bizarre Footy Show appearance
Broede Carmody
Sam Newman was uncharacteristically tight-lipped on The Footy Show on Thursday night, leading to speculation the controversial presenter was teaching Nine bosses a lesson on what the show would be like without him.
Instead of his usual outspoken self, Thursday night's Newman at times refused to answer questions - much to the frustration of his fellow panelists - and kept his feelings to himself on a range of hot-button topics.
When co-host Rebecca Maddern asked for his views on whether Collingwood president Eddie McGuire should resign, Newman remained stone-faced.
"Well, now, [it's a] bit controversial if you make comments on this," he said. "Get taken aside and spoken to, step over some imaginary line in the sand. So I don't think I would like to make a comment on any of that."
But the grouchy behaviour didn't stop there. When asked who he thought would prevail when the Bulldogs and Gold Coast go head-to-head on Saturday, Newman said "I really don't give a stuff who wins".
Speaking on 3AW on Friday morning, veteran gossip reporter Peter Ford said Newman acted like a "complete sad sack" and said he was kicking up a stink because he believes he'll soon be booted from the popular AFL talk show.
"There were a lot of people hearing this thinking, what another contrived, drummed up drama to try get attention for the footy show," he said. "But ... it was sending out a message. Sam is of the belief that there are rumblings that he will be axed from the footy show at the end of the year."
Ford said Newman believes Nine has tried to reign him in over the past few months and make him more "politically correct".
"He just doesn't wanna play that game," Ford said. "He wants to march to the beat of his own drum. It was [about[ very much demonstrating what the show would be like [without him]."
Channel Nine is expected to make a statement shortly.
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Great news. I loved TFS back when Eddie hosted. For what it's worth I am a Sam Newman fan. Most of what he does is purely to provide controversy and publicity for the show, it normally works.
He's the only one worth watching, but things might change now.
Unfortunately I can't read the article as I am not a HS subscriber.
Pretty desperate move to bring Eddie back.
Do they really think people tuned on, or off, based on Hutchy's role?
Really, the host is just about keeping things moving and on track - to me, the show is antiquated because of;
1. Sam Newman and his painful segments and nonsense input.
2. Obviously ordinary producers who allow the same rubbish to go on and on and on - and have done nothing to liven up the format.
Nowadays, with the teams coming out at 6:25pm, on everyones phone - to spend a chunk of the night putting up the teams/changes 2-4 hours later just bores everyone to snores. As does things like 'Sam's mailbag' going for half an hour.
Apart from that - half of the night is spent with "Coming up next/later".
To me, the producers (and Sam) have buried this show. Its 2017. Refresh the format and the offering to the audience - or the slow death is inevitable.
I'll start by saying I quite like Hutchy-he does what he does because he has a passion the game and talking about it and he's never lost sight of that fact. But he was the wrong choice for the host of TFS for so many reasons.
But I'm trying to think of a better choice and I'm having trouble.
I will admit - I have some Hutchy-bias - because I've listened to his show (with Liam Pickering and Dr.Turf) on Saturday mornings on SEN for years - and I think that is where you get to see (hear) the real Hutchy - and he is bl00dy funny and smart.
But really - this stunt of having Eddie back, might have people turn back on for 1-2 weeks - but in the long term, the show is dying a slow death unless they change the format significantly. The biggest change would be to wind it up with Sam. He's nearly 72 years old, he despises the modern game and takes no genuine interest in it, he despises modern society and can't disguise that, and he just makes the show so slowly moving and frustrating.
The format is so tired. Having these 3 lame duck players or ex players who add diddly squat to the content is mind numbing from a production perspective. And what production value is there then in seeking these same players tips for the round? It is excruciating television. Sam himself has been openly ambivalent to this part of the show for the past decade and yet the producers in their wisdom still see merit in it. If they can't devise something more compelling for their 3 'guest' panelists to contribute to other than fawning their egos then the producers should remove them entirely. It's All well and good to move Hutchy on but unless they cut a swathe through the production team it will be more of the same I fear.
Sam Newman has the ego of a coal mine and the self awareness of a briquette. He's 72 years old and doesn't seem to realise that very few people take him seriously. A case of arrested development for sure. Blinded by his massive ego he has been walking the road of irrelevency for years. His bosses at Ch 9 live by the "no publicity is ..." dictum. They don't care what he does/who he offends as long as the ratings hold up.
Susan Alberti is my hero.
I like his Saturday morning show too. They really won me over when they had the show last year in Footscray and scooped a bunch of bulldog supporters up and took them to the prelim final. I thought that was using their powers (it must have cost a bit, a chartered flight couldn't have been cheap and tickets to the game) for good.
I stopped watching the show the day Sam Newman brought Akermanis in to tell the world how shit the Bulldogs were after he got sacked. Haven't watched he show since. I don't like Hutchinson and especially don't like Barrett. (not a big Dave Hughes fan either). I do, however, like Shane Crawford, but I'm not willing to watch the drivel just to see his segment/s.
I'm a Hutchy fan as well. Rate him as a journo and his knowledge of the game itself leaves Barrett in the dust.
The thing I like about McGuire is that Sam didn't seem to get away with as much when Eddie was hosting. Eddie kept the show on track well.
In saying that I have no confidence that Sam will fade into the background.
They're axing the wrong person.
Amazed that Eddie agreed to take it on. His ego usually means he doesn't want to take on something destined to fail.
The show is dead, it offers absolutely nothing
Yes yet there is such a demand for a show of its type. Everyone wants a foretaste of the weekends action, once the teams are announced. Talking a bit of crap will do as long as it is entertaining crap, with as much real footy as possible, even if its real footy from other levels. Channel 9 should give The Couldabeen Champions and Tony Lenard as much money as they want.
I'm pretty sure a lot of people on here still watch it. I switched it off years ago and I've maybe seen a couple of hours in total in the last 5 or 6 years when I'm changing channels. Eddie will attract a larger audience but he must have a different offer in mind.
I think the problem is that it's neither funny or informative and tries for a blend of both but it comes up well short.
For it to survive this long it must still be appealing to many. Eddie might revive it but I won't be checking in.
Point is it became about them and lost its focus on the reason people watch .. It's to see the teams. . I gave up watching years ago as they didn't show our team until about 11 at night just to keep you watching.
Best days were the Trevor Marmalade days ..
Just go back to something like league teams read them out discuss the ins and outs and move on ..an hour is enough.
I'm a football fan I have no interest in players private lives, what they are paid and how they got in trouble as a 10 year old.
I actually sat next to Hutchie at a lunch a bit over a year ago. He was good to talk to personally. Unguarded and pretty natural. Decent bloke, rwally. Does his best in the media and fair to say his best is pretty good. Also like his Saturday morning show, as other posters have said.
Problems with The Footy Show do not lie with Hutchie. Its problems lie in the fact that it's no longer a footy show with a sprinkling of variety and humour. It's now a B grade variety show with a sprinkling of footy. Also, when the show first started, you just didn't see footballers in the media. I remember when it first came on thinking "Geez, is that what Doug's personality and voice sounds like! I'm fascinated to get to know him!"
Now, (no, make that the last 15 years) the show's problem is that everyone hears these players speak on a weekly basis. There's no intrigue. It's saturation. So that sprinkling of personality has lost its punch.
Instead of recognising that as the core reason why the show's viewership has dropped off, the producers have "chased the dragon" by thinking that more sprinkles are the way to go.
In fact, the exact opposite is the truth. They've needed to leverage the core value of the show - the football. Instead, they've pursued the wrong path and completely stuffed it. I turned off around 2000.
Now Fox Footy have stolen the march, whilst the Ch7 show with Mick Molloy, Sam Pang and Andy Maher (who's inferior to Hutchie, imo - not that it's an overly significant ingredient) has outflanked it for simple, laid back humour. Thing is, 2 of the 3 are actually comedians-cum-entertainers. That beats Sam Newman and a bunch of mundane footballers every time. It's so simple. I wonder why such highly paid TV execs can't work it out!
And after all the criticism (quite justified) of The Footy Show on this thread, I'd like to post a positive comment.
I really like The Front bar, particularly when they get in players (great and otherwise) from the past.
Front bar is excellent . It's gone from a 15 min show on the AFL app two years ago , to prime time FTA
I've enjoyed The Front Bar the few times I've had a look. Sam Pang is becoming one of my favourite TV personalities.
He was on Have You Been Paying Attention when one of the panelists mentioned that his nickname was 'The Orchid' when he was playing suburban footy.
When asked why this was, Pang sheepishly replied 'because I needed perfect conditions in order to thrive'.
His work with Ed Kavalee and Santo Ciluaro during the 2012 World Cup.