Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

[Bulldog Joe]

I don't think we should be seduced by fringe players.

They are generally on the fringe for a reason and those with an occasional game in top sides will look better than those getting games in poorer teams.

We need someone who will add something extra. That means someone filling a specific need who is unlikely to be a fringe player anywhere (Barry, Huddo etc) or someone who is ready to improve after 2 or 3 tears in the system.

Other than that we get game changers by finding and developing our own. Dahlhaus and Jones might develop into that and so might some of the other recent draftees.

[Bulldog Revolution]

We have been reported to be interested in Farren Ray in the HS.

What would it take? I'd be slightly interested. He's a decent role player, but we wouldn't want him distributing the ball again.

Also, Toovey is on the move from Collingwood. Considering we need defenders - should we look at him, and what would he cost?

Interesting wasn't it,

Ross Lyon found a way to use Ray in a far more constructive way, where he largely got the ball and handballed to guys behind him who set up the play. They rarely used him as a creative wingman.

He'd certainly come back a better player

Depends on the price and what he wants in salary

Will Toovey actually leave? - some heavy posturing on both sides it seems

[Rocco Jones]

I think fans are far too simplistic when dismissing fringe players. For me it comes down to the need for the role they can fill and especially about the price.

[Mofra]

Will Toovey actually leave? - some heavy posturing on both sides it seems

He would be best 22 at most clubs in the competition - I'd have him at the Bulldogs in a heartbeat.

[bulldogsman]

He would be best 22 at most clubs in the competition - I'd have him at the Bulldogs in a heartbeat.

I'd rather us look at run and carry offensive types. Not solid defensive players. At the right price he would be fine, but a club like Essendon are in big need of him meaning we will have to pay overs. No thanks.

[BulldogBelle]

I think fans are far too simplistic when dismissing fringe players. For me it comes down to the need for the role they can fill and especially about the price.

Agree

Matthew Bate to Western Bulldogs

Farren Ray to Western Bulldogs

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/af...-1226163554972

I also heard that we were interested in Brock McLean - another hard and slow body

If we paid anything more than a 3rd round pick for Bate, and a 4th round pick for Ray I would be very disappointed

I wouldnt mind Bate in our forward line actually - he would add some experience, intensity and strength given Hall/Hahn's retirement and the fact that Jones and Panos and potentially Hill are still young and developing

Ray - if he comes super cheap (salary and pick) I wouldnt mind him back to play as a hard tag as mentoned above by another poster

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Bate and McLean? Please no.

[Sedat]

Bate and McLean? Please no.

Not only are we reverting back to the 1954 jumper, our playing list is being moulded into one with 1954 style athletic attributes.

They are only rumours at this stage - I hope they remain that way.

[LostDoggy]

I know, lets get Franklin and delist Addison, will that improve it much?

We might fluke an A grader in the draft. I highly doubt we will get one trading, especially trading for fringe players.

[LostDoggy]

He would be best 22 at most clubs in the competition - I'd have him at the Bulldogs in a heartbeat.

Rumours say Toovey wants 350K. Not sure he is worth that

[Desipura]

We might fluke an A grader in the draft. I highly doubt we will get one trading, especially trading for fringe players.

Trading a 3rd rounder for a player that may fit our needs (all be it not an A Grader) is not a bad thing.
Highly unlikely to get an A grader with a 3rd round pick in a compromised draft.

[anfo27]

Agree

Matthew Bate to Western Bulldogs

Farren Ray to Western Bulldogs

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/af...-1226163554972

I also heard that we were interested in Brock McLean - another hard and slow body

If we paid anything more than a 3rd round pick for Bate, and a 4th round pick for Ray I would be very disappointed

I wouldnt mind Bate in our forward line actually - he would add some experience, intensity and strength given Hall/Hahn's retirement and the fact that Jones and Panos and potentially Hill are still young and developing

Ray - if he comes super cheap (salary and pick) I wouldnt mind him back to play as a hard tag as mentoned above by another poster

Someone is having a laugh here. This spud is on $400,000 at the blues and i wouldn't take him if Carlton offered to pay all of it.

[kruder]

Farren Ray???? Brock Mclean???Surely its a bad joke?????

[LostDoggy]

Someone is having a laugh here. This spud is on $400,000 at the blues and i wouldn't take him if Carlton offered to pay all of it.

This. I'd pay for his fare back to Carlton.

[LostDoggy]

Trading a 3rd rounder for a player that may fit our needs (all be it not an A Grader) is not a bad thing.
Highly unlikely to get an A grader with a 3rd round pick in a compromised draft.

All well and good if a fringe player at another club that could do a role for us costs us only a 3rd rounder. Call me cynical I don't see that happening. We got screwed last year, nothing will change this year if we go down the same path.