Doug Hawkins

[LostDoggy]

Don't think Hawk was ever under rated.

I'm talking about now a days, especially outside of our supporters.

[LostDoggy]

I'm talking about now a days, especially outside of our supporters.

This is a trend across all players, not just Dougie or ex-Footscray players. As the years go by, the commonly-held myth is that the players are getting better and better. For example, the constant claim from opposition fans that EJ Whitten couldn't hold a candle to modern players.

Sure, we have better sports science, etc. and full-time players rather than beer-swilling, cigarette-smoking players who worked 9-5 in a factory somewhere, but I think people tend to underestimate the competitive drive that made men like Doug, Dipper, EJ etc. the players they were. If they were 18-year-old kids today, they'd be pushing just as hard as they did back then to play league footy.

[bulldogtragic]

Watching Dougie on Open Mike now. Good stuff.

I was too young for 85, but I can see how many still have nightmares.

Captain Gronewagon

[always right]

The prelim final Doug played against North in 1985 was one of the stellar finals performances....certainly from a bulldogs player anyway. His footskills were amazing that day.

[Twodogs]

The prelim final Doug played against North in 1985 was one of the stellar finals performances....certainly from a bulldogs player anyway. His footskills were amazing that day.

First semi. The Prelim was against Hawthorn the following week.


The pass to Edmond in the second quarter was outstanding, after that we were never going to lose that game.

[always right]

First semi. The Prelim was against Hawthorn the following week.

Yep.....spot on.

[Remi Moses]

Watching Dougie on Open Mike now. Good stuff.

I was too young for 85, but I can see how many still have nightmares.

Captain Gronewagon

In fairness Hawks skipped away to a 20 odd point lead and we kicked a few junk time goals .
Think we would have pushed Essendon closer than Hawthorn did, but they were by far the best side in 85

[bornadog]

In fairness Hawks skipped away to a 20 odd point lead and we kicked a few junk time goals .
Think we would have pushed Essendon closer than Hawthorn did, but they were by far the best side in 85

Bad coaching after the scores were tight for three quarters of the game.

[Twodogs]

In fairness Hawks skipped away to a 20 odd point lead and we kicked a few junk time goals .
Think we would have pushed Essendon closer than Hawthorn did, but they were by far the best side in 85

I thought we went 8 points up early in the last quarter until the little thug kicked a few and they did get twenty odd points again but we had one big effort left. We spent it and got within a goal and a bit when the Siren went. Mind you, there are a lot of reasons why my memory could be a bit shaky from that day to this.

And that 1985 Essendon team was the best beatdirectpenentthenkicktoanothercontest old fashioned footy team I saw

[bornadog]

And that 1985 Essendon team was the best beatdirectpenentthenkicktoanothercontest old fashioned footy team I saw

Which we smashed at home

[always right]

I thought we went 8 points up early in the last quarter until the little thug kicked a few and they did get twenty odd points again but we had one big effort left. We spent it and got within a goal and a bit when the Siren went. Mind you, there are a lot of reasons why my memory could be a bit shaky from that day to this.

And that 1985 Essendon team was the best beatdirectpenentthenkicktoanothercontest old fashioned footy team I saw

Your recollection is correct. A game we lost rather than Hawthorn won. Watched the replay back and some of our errors were appalling.....Rick Kennedy being one of the main culprits giving away some really stupid free kicks and 50m penalties. We would have given Essendon a huge scare in the GF that year.

[bornadog]

Your recollection is correct. A game we lost rather than Hawthorn won. Watched the replay back and some of our errors were appalling.....Rick Kennedy being one of the main culprits giving away some really stupid free kicks and 50m penalties. We would have given Essendon a huge scare in the GF that year.

don't remind me I am still seething

How good was the clash between Dougie and Dipper

[chef]

Bad coaching after the scores were tight for three quarters of the game.

Bad coaching as in leaving Hardie on Matthews?

[bornadog]

Bad coaching as in leaving Hardie on Matthews?

yes that was part of it.

[Remi Moses]

Hardie flogged Matthews ( hence he was dragged) some are rewriting history on here.
Matthews came on and like the champion he was basically won Hawthorn the game.
Hardie kick chased ( as he did a year later and for his whole career)