End of Season - Trade Targets

[boydogs]

I'm a little confused.

What I'm saying is I could have put Mitch Hahn, Brad Johnson, Daniel Giansiracusa, Luke Dahlhaus or Shaun Higgins' names in that post and it would have been identical to what I have read on here 100 times before. Every small or medium forward that comes to the club is automatically spoken about as the next great midfielder that just isn't fit enough yet.

Some players are best up forward, we shouldn't see that as a lesser contribution to playing in the middle. I keep reading that Stringer needs to take the next step and play in the midfield like as if playing up forward is a waste of his ability.

Maybe it's the Gary Ablett Jr. effect.

[Remi Moses]

All players play mid or high half forward these days .
Unless you're prepared to work up and down, you won't get a game .
I'd say that's the knock on Nahas ( yes he has pace) but he doesn't work hard enough.
That's why he's in and out of their line up.

[Mofra]

That's fine, I just get frustrated seeing players discounted solely because they are only good in one position, or when it is suggested players who show something in one position should be played somewhere else

"only good in one position" - that's the rub. Nahas is, at best, "adequate" in one position and is a downgrade on at least three players we already have on the list.

Even Dickson plays high forward at times despite being possibly most limited player (position wise) on our list.

[bulldogtragic]

Nahas is a step backwards for this list, whatever position he plays.

[Topdog]

I'd rather have a list with 1 player short than a list with Nahas in it.

[comrade]

Kristian Jaksch is debuting for GWS today. We've been linked to him so might be worth seeing how he goes.

[LostDoggy]

Kristian Jaksch is debuting for GWS today. We've been linked to him so might be worth seeing how he goes.

Didn't see enough ball to really make an impact. Richmond just did what they liked today. Conca was excellent. Would love to make a play for him but bet he ends up at Freo who have the salary cap to buy him home. He'd be a great fit in their list. If we can get Crameri and Jaksch this trade period (forward for now and a forward for later) I'll do cartwheels. Happy to do a direct swop of Wood or Cross if either were up for it (and maybe some change) for Jaksch which would help both clubs. Some of the above posts refer to Higgins being fit and in the forward line. If we ever get more than 8 games in a season out of him I will be absolutely shocked. He (sadly) shouldn't be factored into a stable future forward 6 in my opinion.

[1eyedog]

Fair enough but is Nahas what we really need?

Absolutely not.

Nahas never plays through the middle and that's a reason he doesn't play .
No to 23rd players

Agreed for this reason.

Stokes has played a heap of midfield this year.

Fair enough. I've watched a bit of Geelong this year and hadn't noticed. They've just got so many options both new and old to go through there.

[jeemak]

What I'm saying is I could have put Mitch Hahn, Brad Johnson, Daniel Giansiracusa, Luke Dahlhaus or Shaun Higgins' names in that post and it would have been identical to what I have read on here 100 times before. Every small or medium forward that comes to the club is automatically spoken about as the next great midfielder that just isn't fit enough yet.

Some players are best up forward, we shouldn't see that as a lesser contribution to playing in the middle. I keep reading that Stringer needs to take the next step and play in the midfield like as if playing up forward is a waste of his ability.

Maybe it's the Gary Ablett Jr. effect.

Brad Johnson and Daniel Giansiracusa played as forwards because they needed to for the team's sake. You could potentially put Higgins in that area too. Mitch Hahn was very limited as a footballer compared to these guys, and his only go was playing forward.

Each of these players were drafted as midfielders. Johnson could have been one of the best midfielders to play the game if he didn't have to fill a need and become the best medium sized forward our club has ever seen (playing as a key forward). Gia has always been the best user of the ball in traffic as long as he's been on the list, it was only because he was such a smart footballer that he was able to fill a role as a forward because the club needed him to. Higgins came into a side that needed a utility, but hasn't had continuity.

Dickson is a forward, and will always only be a forward and that's fine. The modern game doesn't allow teams to carry more than one or two players as specialist small or medium forwards which means other players have to have diverse skills. Dahlhaus (who I though played and excellent game today) can be both.

The reason why Stringer will be used as a utility forward and midfielder is because he's going to be better than most players in the league at doing both. He's going to have games as a forward when a good defender keeps him quiet, and we'll be lucky enough to put him up the ground so he can impact that game, or vice versa.

[Mofra]

Dickson is a forward, and will always only be a forward and that's fine. The modern game doesn't allow teams to carry more than one or two players as specialist small or medium forwards which means other players have to have diverse skills. Dahlhaus (who I though played and excellent game today) can be both.

The reason why Stringer will be used as a utility forward and midfielder is because he's going to be better than most players in the league at doing both. He's going to have games as a forward when a good defender keeps him quiet, and we'll be lucky enough to put him up the ground so he can impact that game, or vice versa.

Agree with your post, however Dickson has been pushing further up the ground this year as well as playign close to goal - whether it's a ploy to isolate Campbell one out at times due to his size advantage or due to our need for a get out option around the HF line when the opposition have had time to set upo their zone, I can't be sure.

[boydogs]

Johnson could have been one of the best midfielders to play the game if he didn't have to fill a need and become the best medium sized forward our club has ever seen (playing as a key forward).

You have a low opinion of forwards, don't you. You talk as if our lack of a key forward stopped Brad Johnson from reaching his true potential as an elite midfielder.

The way I see it, our need created an opportunity for Johnno to reach his true potential as a forward that he may never have had given his height.

[LostDoggy]

Shane Kersten has signed a one year deal with the Cats

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Shane Kersten has signed a one year deal with the Cats

Interesting it's just the one year, but one would assume he will play plenty of games next year given Pods has been shown the door.

Still, if he plays well, clubs will be after him.