Crameri

[LongWait]

The ASADA actions in the future may or may not involve Crameri. If we are considering trading for him, we will no doubt have conducted our due diligence and will have mitigated our risks.

It sounds like the ASADA actions will be known before trade season concludes.

Most non-Essendon football followers thought that infraction notices would be issued against at least some Essendon players - you didn't have to be clairvoyant to see that coming.

The Football Department staff at our club would have a pretty good idea what is likely to come Essendon and Crameri's way - if they continue to pursue a trade there will be good reasons for doing so.

[bulldogtragic]

At a guess, it would make the AFL more likely to offer FA to Essendon players wouldn't it???

[ledge]

I would think Jobe is in a bit of strife as he admitted he took a substance in question.

[Mofra]

I would think Jobe is in a bit of strife as he admitted he took a substance in question.

No he didn't

He thinks he did, he didn't know. Important difference.

[Scraggers]

I would think Jobe is in a bit of strife as he admitted he took a substance in question.

But will he lose his Brownlow ????

[Cyberdoggie]

No he didn't

He thinks he did, he didn't know. Important difference.

They also won't get them on AOD, as that is "off the table". The other substances though are a concern.

Not sure why they are talking lifetime bans for players. Since when does a first time offence athlete get banned for life after testing positive? never.

[Bulldog4life]

They also won't get them on AOD, as that is "off the table". The other substances though are a concern.

Not sure why they are talking lifetime bans for players. Since when does a first time offence athlete get banned for life after testing positive? never.

When they are trafficking?

[Cyberdoggie]

When they are trafficking?

Well that is obviously different but i don't believe any players would be involved in that.

The coaching staff is a different story.


Our interests concern Crameri if we trade for him, and at worst i'm assuming he could get a couple of years penalty.

[Twodogs]

They also won't get them on AOD, as that is "off the table". The other substances though are a concern.

Not sure why they are talking lifetime bans for players. Since when does a first time offence athlete get banned for life after testing positive? never.

When they are trafficking?

They were saying that on KB this morning.

[ledge]

The life time ban would be for the staff and for Jobe to say he believes that's what he took still falls back on him that he wasn't sure what he took,so he is still in strife in not knowing exactly what he took which ASADA says ignorance is no excuse

[Topdog]

Yeah Jobe is in big trouble with ASADA. His wording was important because it meant he couldn't be in trouble with the AFL.

The life time bans being talked about are for the staff, hopefully Hird.

[Murphy'sLore]

Still cannot believe that Hird's job is being held open for him. What an absolute joke. Maybe he needs a life ban just to force him to see that he has actually done something wrong.

[bulldogtragic]

Still cannot believe that Hird's job is being held open for him. What an absolute joke. Maybe he needs a life ban just to force him to see that he has actually done something wrong.

They've put the while club 'on hold' for him... And no person is bigger than he club....

[stefoid]

Given that they are thinking only 7 players will be charged, it must be that those 7 took something specifically illegal. So the only question with regard to Crameri is - did he take it? He would know, and if weve talked to him, so would we.

Personally, I think a mature, big-muscled player like him would be unlikely to have been on illegal muscle-building stuff. More likely to be skinnier, younger types on the chopping block.

Just talkin through my hat

[Murphy'sLore]

It's seven 'staff and players' isn't it? You'd think the majority, if not all, of those would be the staff responsible for implementing the program, especially as they've been saying how hard it would be to pin specific usage onto the players due to their shoddy record-keeping.