Lance Franklin

[jeemak]

What's the big deal?

He likes number 23 and he's the marquee player.

[Twodogs]

What's the big deal?

He likes number 23 and he's the marquee player.

Exactly. Footballers are big on the "it's worked well for me so far" mindset too.

[Topdog]

There's some pretty freakish things here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAr6oAKieHk

Certainly is, thanks for posting it. Only issue with it is I like to pretend the Washington years never happened and if featured in this top 50

Oh and #1 was a clear push off foul. Love #3, that celebration was fantastic.

[1eyedog]

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The difference is that he wouldn't have asked for some other player to give it up for him.

Sydney's number 23 guernsey has no significance to him.

To argue that a heap of Lance Frankin merchandise is being sold as a reason to let him pick his own number (And I know that you didn't make that argument) is a load of bollocks.

You've spoken to him about it have you? Thanks for your unnecessary clarification too but my point still stands, aside from winning one million premierships marketing and branding are very, very important in today's game, especially to those who invest in it but are outside any interest in the game - so no, he only answered succinctly in your opinion and the original comment was connecting numbers by amount of premierships won in that number, which, is really just an alternate opinion.

I provided a counter argument that stated that Buddy is just as much brand as football player and number 23 is part of his on-going brand - irrespective of how many no. 23 jumpers he's going to sell at Sydney. You need to separate Buddy the footballer and Buddy the brand and Buddy the brand is so much bigger than Buddy the footballer to many people.

[1eyedog]

What's the big deal?

He likes number 23 and he's the marquee player.

Yes it's an emotional link and it means something to him - he is tied to it and he is recognised by it so some marketing firms would say that Buddy is no. 23.

[Maddog37]

You've spoken to him about it have you? Thanks for your unnecessary clarification too but my point still stands, aside from winning one million premierships marketing and branding are very, very important in today's game, especially to those who invest in it but are outside any interest in the game - so no, he only answered succinctly in your opinion and the original comment was connecting numbers by amount of premierships won in that number, which, is really just an alternate opinion.

I provided a counter argument that stated that Buddy is just as much brand as football player and number 23 is part of his on-going brand - irrespective of how many no. 23 jumpers he's going to sell at Sydney. You need to separate Buddy the footballer and Buddy the brand and Buddy the brand is so much bigger than Buddy the footballer to many people.

I would venture that Buddy the brand has been more important than Buddy the footballer to the Hawks.

[LostDoggy]

I don't think Buddy should have demanded #23, no matter what his reasons, brand, marketing, football, superstition or otherwise.

But that said, it's done: he did, and Sydney let him do it. I don't think a number should really be up for sale like that, so if Sydney decided it wasn't that important for their number 23 to be earned rather than simply requested, all power to them. Lockyer is better off — he can make another number his own, the right way.

[soupman]

He has worn number 23 all is footy career. Even in the Under 18 Champs.

Except for his first year at Hawthorn when he wore 38.

[Remi Moses]

I don't see the big issue to be honest .
He likes the number and of course he's a heavily marketed commodity. .
If it was an older player i'm not sure they 'd be giving up their number.

[Remi Moses]

I would venture that Buddy the brand has been more important than Buddy the footballer to the Hawks.

I think regardless of the murmurings out of Waverley they will miss Buddy enormously.
Marketing and footy wise.

[Maddog37]

No doubt Remi. It will be interesting to see how they go.

[1eyedog]

Except for his first year at Hawthorn when he wore 38.

Pretty hard to take the number off your leading goal kicker and give it to a kid though. As soon as Thommo left he got it. I reckon Hawthorn will miss him big time. Not for his smarts and ability to convert but he attracted so much opposition attention that now opposition backs will be all over Hawthorn forwards like flies.

[Topdog]

I dunno they handled every game he has missed for the past 2 seasons with no problems.

[LostDoggy]

I dunno they handled every game he has missed for the past 2 seasons with no problems.

Roughead is a real issue.

[bornadog]

Buddy to play his 350th game this week. He is an all time great of the AFL.