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Re: Lets discuss - Tory Dickson
Originally Posted by
1eyedog
Dicko had a few good patches through the year but he looks cooked.
Agreed. He is not in the elite that can play on at his age. He has been great for the club but there comes a time and he looked every bit cooked.
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Re: Lets discuss - Tory Dickson
I think the time has come for Dickson but in saying that I am still not sold on Lloyd. Maybe Porter/Greene/Cavarra.
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Re: Lets discuss - Tory Dickson
Originally Posted by
Bullies
I think the time has come for Dickson but in saying that I am still not sold on Lloyd. Maybe Porter/Greene/Cavarra.
You're not sold on Lloyd, despite him topping our goalkickers with 38, but it's a maybe for Porter and Cavarra, neither of whom have played a single game. Huh?
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Re: Lets discuss - Tory Dickson
Originally Posted by
AndrewP6
You're not sold on Lloyd, despite him topping our goalkickers with 38, but it's a maybe for Porter and Cavarra, neither of whom have played a single game. Huh?
15 game rule
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Re: Lets discuss - Tory Dickson
Originally Posted by
AndrewP6
You're not sold on Lloyd, despite him topping our goalkickers with 38, but it's a maybe for Porter and Cavarra, neither of whom have played a single game. Huh?
I’m not sold on Lloyd either being a permanent fix. A few warning signs in the second half of the year.
More of an In Bruges guy?
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Re: Lets discuss - Tory Dickson
Originally Posted by
azabob
I’m not sold on Lloyd either being a permanent fix. A few warning signs in the second half of the year.
Yeah kicked too many goals
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Re: Lets discuss - Tory Dickson
Hopefully I am proven wrong about Lloyd and he had a good year but I can't see him improving. I wouldn't put him in the same class as Dickson at his peak.
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Re: Lets discuss - Tory Dickson
Originally Posted by
Bullies
Hopefully I am proven wrong about Lloyd and he had a good year but I can't see him improving. I wouldn't put him in the same class as Dickson at his peak.
If he stalls at 38 goals a year, I'm OK with that.
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Re: Lets discuss - Tory Dickson
Originally Posted by
Bullies
Hopefully I am proven wrong about Lloyd and he had a good year but I can't see him improving. I wouldn't put him in the same class as Dickson at his peak.
Originally Posted by
AndrewP6
If he stalls at 38 goals a year, I'm OK with that.
Yeah 38 is fine for me too. I get what you’re saying though Bullies, he’s kicked his best of 3 goals I think on 7-8 occasions. That right now seems his ceiling for some reason whereas peak Tory could kick half a dozen. I think both quoted comments can be right on this. And hopefully he tears some club to absolute shreds next year.
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29-09-2019, 08:29 PM
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Re: Lets discuss - Tory Dickson
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
Yeah 38 is fine for me too. I get what you’re saying though Bullies, he’s kicked his best of 3 goals I think on 7-8 occasions. That right now seems his ceiling for some reason whereas peak Tory could kick half a dozen. I think both quoted comments can be right on this. And hopefully he tears some club to absolute shreds next year.
You could look at it that he had a breakout year this year. His figures in 17/18 were fairly ordinary (a total of 11 goals from 15 games in the two years) but played 23 games this year and kicked 38. I'd be happy with that rate each year.
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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29-09-2019, 08:52 PM
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Re: Lets discuss - Tory Dickson
Originally Posted by
Twodogs
You could look at it that he had a breakout year this year. His figures in 17/18 were fairly ordinary (a total of 11 goals from 15 games in the two years) but played 23 games this year and kicked 38. I'd be happy with that rate each year.
I'm happy with him in a forward pocket next year and was happy with him this year. My only gripes is he can be a little too greedy and snaps when simple drop punts will do.
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29-09-2019, 08:59 PM
#102
Re: Lets discuss - Tory Dickson
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
I'm happy with him in a forward pocket next year and was happy with him this year. My only gripes is he can be a little too greedy and snaps when simple drop punts will do.
I love having a player who will have a ping from anywhere. After spending a lifetime watching our guys do almost anything in the forward half do anything other than actually take a shot at goal I will happily take a goal hungry player. Paul Hudson was the last player I remember being confident enough to have a ping from anywhere.
After all he's more chance of kicking a goal if he actually has a shot than the rest of our forward line is by doing anything apart from having a shot.
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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01-10-2019, 12:14 PM
#103
Re: Lets discuss - Tory Dickson
Tough one with Tory. Seems like it really is a numbers game. In short, Webb and Roberts delisted means we have 5 free spots on the senior list. Keath and Bruce in means we have only the minimum 3 heading into the draft. If we want anyone else during the trade period, we either had to actually trade a player or let Dickson go.
Perhaps even being drafted a rookie if he really wants to continue and there are no other takers. Just due to list management reasons.
I don't want to derail this thread but is the minimum amount of draft picks outdated?
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01-10-2019, 12:26 PM
#104
Re: Lets discuss - Tory Dickson
Originally Posted by
Rocco Jones
I don't want to derail this thread but is the minimum amount of draft picks outdated?
I think yes.
The reason would surely be to ensure every year 50+ kids get a chance, but considering you can promote rookies to take those spots anyway that reasoning becomes somewhat redundant.
I should leave it alone but you're not right
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02-10-2019, 12:42 PM
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Re: Lets discuss - Tory Dickson
Ameet Bains said this morning that Bruce (deep), Naughton (roam/lead) & Schache (endurance up & down the ground) will play together.
Lloyd & Dale have had best years:
HF: Schache Naughton McLen
F: Dale Bruce Lloyd
Hopefully there's a pressure small forward coming this trade period. Then resting mids forward. Plus our small forward depth is West (currently), Williams (maybe), Greene, Cavarra, Gowers & Vandermeer.
Where does this news from Bains leave the uncontracted Tory Dickson?
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