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10-08-2017, 07:15 PM
#661
Re: Marcus Bontempelli
Originally Posted by
Topdog
Yes he can win a Brownlow, not this year as he had a lean 4-5 weeks.
I forgot who it was but someone in the media (maybe Healy) didn't include Bont in a best players under 23 in the comp
Surely not? Doubt it was Healy he said the other day Bont has the potential to be our best player ever.
More of an In Bruges guy?
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10-08-2017, 07:40 PM
#662
Re: Marcus Bontempelli
Originally Posted by
azabob
Surely not? Doubt it was Healy he said the other day Bont has the potential to be our best player ever.
It was Terry Wallace, and he was rating the best inside midfielders in the comp under 23 using "statistics" to "illustrate" his "point".
It was very stupid.
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10-08-2017, 08:17 PM
#663
Re: Marcus Bontempelli
Originally Posted by
azabob
Surely not? Doubt it was Healy he said the other day Bont has the potential to be our best player ever.
Yes it was - see post #646
Originally Posted by
Happy Days
It was Terry Wallace, and he was rating the best inside midfielders in the comp under 23 using "statistics" to "illustrate" his "point".
It was very stupid.
See post #646
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10-08-2017, 08:17 PM
#664
Re: Marcus Bontempelli
Originally Posted by
Happy Days
It was Terry Wallace, and he was rating the best inside midfielders in the comp under 23 using "statistics" to "illustrate" his "point".
It was very stupid.
Thankyou and apologies to Healy
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10-08-2017, 08:19 PM
#665
Re: Marcus Bontempelli
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Yes it was - see post #646
See post #646
Nah i was talking about Bont not named in the best midfielders under 23. I was very vague due to a terrible memory. Both azabob and happy days were spot on
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10-08-2017, 08:53 PM
#666
Re: Marcus Bontempelli
Gerard isn't wrong when he says Bontempelli is one of the reasons we are still chance this season. The Bont can sway the outcome of a game than any bulldog player I've seen. It's the little moments he wins in games that accumulate until we are over the line. I don't think it's a coincidence that we nearly always win close games since the Bont came along.
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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11-08-2017, 01:27 AM
#667
Re: Marcus Bontempelli
Can't believe I was unhappy with this pick!
But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.
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11-08-2017, 03:02 AM
#668
Re: Marcus Bontempelli
I was on record of wanting Billings and probably up until the end of 2015 I would have been stubbornly defending my choice.......but the jig's up, I was wrong.
Ironically Billings is by far and away - apart from Kelly or Lever - my most desired player for recruitment across the league.
The Bont has been a funny player for me this year. His talent came out in spades early, when he was down he portrayed some really selfish traits with the ball from time to time, and now he's mostly unreliable in front of goal while still being a massive force in score involvements. My personal view is we're actually seeing the back end of a lull in performance that is maturity or experience driven, and his talent has curtailed its affect.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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11-08-2017, 01:35 PM
#669
Re: Marcus Bontempelli
Jee - can you dumb down your personal view on the Bont for me?
More of an In Bruges guy?
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11-08-2017, 01:47 PM
#670
Re: Marcus Bontempelli
Originally Posted by
jeemak
I was on record of wanting Billings and probably up until the end of 2015 I would have been stubbornly defending my choice.......but the jig's up, I was wrong.
Ironically Billings is by far and away - apart from Kelly or Lever - my most desired player for recruitment across the league.
The Bont has been a funny player for me this year. His talent came out in spades early, when he was down he portrayed some really selfish traits with the ball from time to time, and now he's mostly unreliable in front of goal while still being a massive force in score involvements. My personal view is we're actually seeing the back end of a lull in performance that is maturity or experience driven, and his talent has curtailed its affect.
I've been wondering about this. Do we want Kelly and Lever because we need them as players or because we've been linked to them for a while now and the idea that we want them and they are the best players suited to us has sort of crept in by osmosis?
My view is we need a player like Kelly but we have Lever's position covered. Lever is probably a better defender right now than the guys we have to cover him but we have the chance to put in a CHB and FB who will play those positions for us for the next decade and we can play Adams as the third tall. Cordy, Adams, Young with depth from Collins and Roberts should be enough tall defenders surely?
But I dream at night of a midfield with Bont and Kelly in it. Kelly is a jet. If he is available then we should throw the farm at him.
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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11-08-2017, 02:49 PM
#671
Re: Marcus Bontempelli
Originally Posted by
azabob
Jee - can you dumb down your personal view on the Bont for me?
The Bont is still young and inexperienced as a footballer, so is prone to mental and physical lapses very good experienced players are not. His talent is such that these lapses don't impact him as much as they might other young players.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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11-08-2017, 03:06 PM
#672
Re: Marcus Bontempelli
If we get Lever, there's a good chance that Adams plays forward.
I'd be a fan of this and it gives us flexibility, because Adams can certainly play as a key back. The biggest issue he has is durability.
HFF: Stringer - Adams - McLean
FF: Dickson - Boyd - Dahlhaus/Picken
With Bont, Dunkley and others rotating through there it looks very well balanced and dangerous.
I like Adams as a defender and won't be disappointed to see him remain there but he could be a very strong forward.
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11-08-2017, 03:12 PM
#673
Re: Marcus Bontempelli
Originally Posted by
azabob
Jee - can you dumb down your personal view on the Bont for me?
Bont. Gun now. Will get better.
He is just so good to watch, he moves like liquid.
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11-08-2017, 03:25 PM
#674
Re: Marcus Bontempelli
Originally Posted by
marcov
Bont. Gun now. Will get better.
He is just so good to watch, he moves like liquid.
That's what it is that He does.. I've been trying to think of the right analogy since I first saw him play. He does move like liquid, you're dead right.
Sometimes he'll even leave a bit of himself behind and it snaps back into place like the T-850 terminator.
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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11-08-2017, 03:44 PM
#675
Re: Marcus Bontempelli
Originally Posted by
Twodogs
That's what it is that He does.. I've been trying to think of the right analogy since I first saw him play. He does move like liquid, you're dead right.
Sometimes he'll even leave a bit of himself behind and it snaps back into place like the T-850 terminator.
Nice work, thats a great image for his opponents. Neo dodging bullets comes to mind as well.
But yeah, how else to describe it, he isnt quick, he looks dead slow, but he flows through the game and then the game becomes liquid, everything slows and becomes smoother.
Except his set shot kicking this year has been perverse and diabolical. Its like getting a magnificent steak from the butcher and someone over cooks it.