Dissension in the Kennel?

[Webby]

I have heard the same thing (not BF)

Me too. And he was in my thoughts re management style discussion in the SEN Garlick thread. Boo frickity hoo. He's a modern day Ben Sexton. When I played footy, a wise man said to me there's no bigger sook than a twos footballer.. Never a truer word spoken.

This is a bloke who is ambling along at the crossroads. Either grow a pair, improve your kicking, positional play and closing speed, or the only trade you'll be looking at is Glenelg, young man.

Extract the digit!

[Dry Rot]

Please Dry Rot you are better than that,

What about these guys then?

I have heard the same thing (not BF)

Me too. And he was in my thoughts re management style discussion in the SEN Garlick thread. Boo frickity hoo. He's a modern day Ben Sexton. When I played footy, a wise man said to me there's no bigger sook than a twos footballer.. Never a truer word spoken.

This is a bloke who is ambling along at the crossroads. Either grow a pair, improve your kicking, positional play and closing speed, or the only trade you'll be looking at is Glenelg, young man.

Extract the digit!

[Webby]

What about these guys then?

I understand the whole WOOF vs (what's it called - the forum?) thing, but occasionally a rumour is a rumour. A solid rumour. ie. "I heard T Lockett kicked 1,000+ goals" and this Talia rumour holds true. Hopefully just a brain fart from the kid, but if he holds to it, he's a dill. He'd need to improve 150% to be at a point where he could feel legitimately disgruntled. I fear he has Jack Watts' work ethic with Zeno Tatzaris's ability.

I'd implore the kid to pull his head in and knuckle down for one big summer.... Because he's not the brightest kid in the Talia household, nor is he the most talented footballer. That might sound harsh, but it's fact.

Suck it up and put in for a summer. Stop the whining!

[G-Mo77]

The SEN crew read out a few texts which had questions to Garlick.

I am not liking this as I do think where there is smoke.

Yep, think the same. We'll probably never know what's going on so we can draw our own conclusions.

Higgins wanting out was a surprise because Macca was friends with his old man or something along those lines. I pictured Higgins being here the whole time while Macca was coach. There were rumors about Boyd being upset with the coach and now Minson. Jones wanting to leave and Talia rumors as well (yes I've heard those as well) Like I said draw your own conclusion but to me it doesn't seem like it's harmony behind the scenes.

[jeemak]

If we turn into a club where the tail starts wagging the dog I will be very disappointed. Nothing good comes from it, especially when there's a clear coaching philosophy only slightly interrupted by a small hurdle.

[FrediKanoute]

I think its just end of season rumblings. For all bar 6 clubs the seasons over so all that's left is picking through the scabs of a season looking for a reason that guys didn't perform to the level we wanted and then drawing a very long bow that they want out and an even longer bow that it must be because of a breakdown with the coach.

Yes there is probably some angst amongst the players - it was on the whole a nothing season - didn't really move tangibly forward in terms of games won and it finished disappointingly with loss to an understrength GWS. Coupled with guys out of contract not getting regular games it makes for rumours.

[Greystache]

Yep, think the same. We'll probably never know what's going on so we can draw our own conclusions.

Higgins wanting out was a surprise because Macca was friends with his old man or something along those lines. I pictured Higgins being here the whole time while Macca was coach. There were rumors about Boyd being upset with the coach and now Minson. Jones wanting to leave and Talia rumors as well (yes I've heard those as well) Like I said draw your own conclusion but to me it doesn't seem like it's harmony behind the scenes.

Whenever a team is losing there's always rumblings, and no doubt there's some basis. The names however give me some comfort, Boyd is hanging on for all he's worth, Minson had a terrible season and is getting bullied at training by the kid likely to take over from him next season, Talia is a million miles off AFL level at this stage, Jones wants free games without effort, and Higgins is looking for a club with some snow for him to ski down. Not all will go obviously, but we're hardly talking about Griffen, Libba, Macrae, Murphy, or Dahlhaus here.

[Pedro Sanchez]

I think its just end of season rumblings. For all bar 6 clubs the seasons over so all that's left is picking through the scabs of a season looking for a reason that guys didn't perform to the level we wanted and then drawing a very long bow that they want out and an even longer bow that it must be because of a breakdown with the coach.

Yes there is probably some angst amongst the players - it was on the whole a nothing season - didn't really move tangibly forward in terms of games won and it finished disappointingly with loss to an understrength GWS. Coupled with guys out of contract not getting regular games it makes for rumours.

Unfortunately there’s definitely negative stuff going on – and the feeling isn’t isolated to just a few. Don’t know what macca has done to rile them, but the troops aren’t happy.

As for Higgins, he wants to stay, but isn’t getting much of an option to do it. The club is floating him as trade bait so his most viable option is to seek a deal elsewhere. And I for one think that’s a shame.

[FrediKanoute]

Source? Sorry to be sceptical, but I don't but I don't buy smoke/fire argument.

[Remi Moses]

Maybe a few players have their knickers in a knot from hearing a few home truths .
Jones couldn't get a gig in a forward line screaming out for someone to take a big grab and give maximum effort.
Liam will tease with a big grab, and a good game then go AWOL for weeks.

[Remi Moses]

If we turn into a club where the tail starts wagging the dog I will be very disappointed. Nothing good comes from it, especially when there's a clear coaching philosophy only slightly interrupted by a small hurdle.

Couldn't agree more. We cannot be a club where this happens

[Hotdog60]

Maybe to coach has been building the young players confidence and then telling the senior players some home truths.

It would be very hard for a member of the senior group to cop a less than faltering review. I think they would try and defend themselves and may possibly decide to walk out of the review rather than say something to put them offside.

I would be hard sitting in the bosses office being told your performance is not up to scratch.

How times this year did we see some of our very junior players dig deep to try and lift us up out of a hole when the senior players couldn't.

[whythelongface]

Unfortunately there’s definitely negative stuff going on – and the feeling isn’t isolated to just a few. Don’t know what macca has done to rile them, but the troops aren’t happy.

As for Higgins, he wants to stay, but isn’t getting much of an option to do it. The club is floating him as trade bait so his most viable option is to seek a deal elsewhere. And I for one think that’s a shame.

Where is this information coming from? Is this from a source within the club or just hearsay? There may well be some internal rumblings but without evidence per se it is hard to know what to believe.

Like any organisation we are not immune from people not enjoying their work place. If it is only one or two individuals then so be it and sometimes, for both parties sake, it is better that they leave the organisation and ply their trade elsewhere. Of the players discussed thus far who are 'not happy' or 'seeking a trade' or 'looking elsewhere' the main one I would like to keep is Wood.

[LostDoggy]

Could it be that the players are sick of losing and are not seeing any light at the end of the tunnel? Perhaps they are seeing this as something Macca is responsible for in terms of game plan and selections etc and they've got the shits?

[LongWait]

Maybe we should be more worried if the club had a losing record for three consecutive years but all of the older players absolutely love the coach and there is never any friction or confrontation.

It could be that some of the players have been sounded out about whether they'd be open to being traded. Minson could be one given that Campbell will be the number 1 ruckman sometime in the next two seasons.