Damien Barrett what's his agenda ?

[Bulldog Joe]

Completely different

I don't understand why you are so keen on Bennell.

There was a lot on here really keen when he was leaving Gold Coast, but I was really against it then and am even more against it now.

The last 4 years have shown that not getting him was to our benefit and we are much better pursuing players that meet needs and that will come from solid experience not hit and miss players.

[bornadog]

I don't understand why you are so keen on Bennell.

There was a lot on here really keen when he was leaving Gold Coast, but I was really against it then and am even more against it now.

The last 4 years have shown that not getting him was to our benefit and we are much better pursuing players that meet needs and that will come from solid experience not hit and miss players.

Hang on BJ, when you use the words so keen makes it sound like I really want him. The question was asked, would you give him a go, and I said yes. That is all.

[Bulldog Joe]

Hang on BJ, when you use the words so keen makes it sound like I really want him. The question was asked, would you give him a go, and I said yes. That is all.

OK.

The risk with Harley is not one I am at all comfortable with.

[bornadog]

OK.

The risk with Harley is not one I am at all comfortable with.

fair enough and that could be true and we don't chase him. Doesn't worry me either way. I would rather be chasing Martin if we are keen on getting some indigenous players.

[GVGjr]

I have more sympathy for someone brought up under his circumstances. No one wanted Sydney Stack and he has been turned around.

Jake well, besides his off field behavior which was lower than low, he is actually a very ordinary footballer, who has potential, but he is too lazy to work hard. 7 disposals last night proved that.

Has Stack actually been turned around? He's been given an opportunity and grasped it strongly. Bennell on the other hand has been given two chances from AFL clubs and now might be a chance to receive a 3rd. I thank our lucky stars we didn't grab him back when Eade was shopping him around.

I'm not sure the two examples are comparable to be honest. Bennell's rap sheet is a bit daunting in my opinion and the fact that he has played just 2 senior games in 4 years doesn't inspire a lot of confidence. Is the upside really there?
In comparison Stack just needed some guidance.

[bulldogtragic]

Frankly, we should be looking at everyone. Even if it's to confirm they're not part of the plans for us going forward. Or maybe we see an opportunity. Bennell is best an SSP/rookie. Jenkins surely involves them paying a large chunk of his wage and next to nothing trade wise (may be the key to getting them getting Keath to us). In those contexts I can see interesting angles. Ordinarily, I'd say no to both. But if they're coming for next to nothing then the conversation changes for me to 'let's how how that would look and see if the players would fit into the culture, and gameplan'. I trust Sam Power and the broader team to look at a wide variety of players and options and make sure we are getting a better list for the movements after our finals series.

[GVGjr]

Frankly, we should be looking at everyone. Even if it's to confirm they're not part of the plans for us going forward. Or maybe we see an opportunity. Bennell is best an SSP/rookie. Jenkins surely involves them paying a large chunk of his wage and next to nothing trade wise (may be the key to getting them getting Keath to us). In those contexts I can see interesting angles. Ordinarily, I'd say no to both. But if they're coming for next to nothing then the conversation changes for me to 'let's how how that would look and see if the players would fit into the culture, and gameplan'. I trust Sam Power and the broader team to look at a wide variety of players and options and make sure we are getting a better list for the movements after our finals series.

We have invested strongly (Not necessarily in high draft picks) in maturity and leadership in the likes of Trengove, Crozier and Duryea
that I can't see us taking unnecessary risks. The likes of Martin, Keath and Tomlinson all make sense from a positional sense and to provide us with more experience. I'm sure we will cast the net wide but we won't be interested in any distracted types.

If we can finish this season strongly I think opposition players will view us more favorably.

[ledge]

We have invested strongly (Not necessarily in high draft picks) in maturity and leadership in the likes of Trengove, Crozier and Duryea
that I can't see us taking unnecessary risks. The likes of Martin, Keath and Tomlinson all make sense from a positional sense and to provide us with more experience. I'm sure we will cast the net wide but we won't be interested in any distracted types.

If we can finish this season strongly I think opposition players will view us more favorably.

I think this thread has gone off on a tangent, where does this relate to Barrett ?

[Bulldog4life]

I think this thread has gone off on a tangent, where does this relate to Barrett ?

We might draft him too?

[bulldogtragic]

We have invested strongly (Not necessarily in high draft picks) in maturity and leadership in the likes of Trengove, Crozier and Duryea
that I can't see us taking unnecessary risks. The likes of Martin, Keath and Tomlinson all make sense from a positional sense and to provide us with more experience. I'm sure we will cast the net wide but we won't be interested in any distracted types.

If we can finish this season strongly I think opposition players will view us more favorably.

How do we know he's distracted now? He's clocking up the frequent flyer miles to find surgeons and specialists that can get him playing again. I'd say he's 100% focussed on that alone (ie. not a distracted type). Maybe having a kid has grounded him and maybe he wants the chance to leave a legacy for his kids other than what they'd find in they googled him today. So maybe he's doubly focussed. Maybe taking what he knows is his one last chance triply focusses him.

He's an SSP candidate (rookie), one year, minimum wage.

If Bevo, Power & Bains sat down with him and he passed the interview. Then he tested at VU and a full on review of his calves by our surgeons and medico's and they thought they could do something positive to get him playing. And let's say for argument sake he does play again. That puts the money and ball in a MoneyBall selection. I don't see the risk in exploring the idea, and if Bell says 'he's ticked all the boxes' then I don't see the risk in a one year rookie spot, minimum wage.

Alternatively, he could fail an interview and medical and this is all moot. But I don't see the benefit of dismissing the idea right now though. I'm not convinced one way or the other, but if the club went about exploring the recruitment of him and he passed the tests, I'm backing Sam Power, Bevo & Bains to make the best call for the club.

[ledge]

How do we know he's distracted now? He's clocking up the frequent flyer miles to find surgeons and specialists that can get him playing again. I'd say he's 100% focussed on that alone (ie. not a distracted type). Maybe having a kid has grounded him and maybe he wants the chance to leave a legacy for his kids other than what they'd find in they googled him today. So maybe he's doubly focussed. Maybe taking what he knows is his one last chance triply focusses him.

He's an SSP candidate (rookie), one year, minimum wage.

If Bevo, Power & Bains sat down with him and he passed the interview. Then he tested at VU and a full on review of his calves by our surgeons and medico's and they thought they could do something positive to get him playing. And let's say for argument sake he does play again. That puts the money and ball in a MoneyBall selection. I don't see the risk in exploring the idea, and if Bell says 'he's ticked all the boxes' then I don't see the risk in a one year rookie spot, minimum wage.

Alternatively, he could fail an interview and medical and this is all moot. But I don't see the benefit of dismissing the idea right now though. I'm not convinced one way or the other, but if the club went about exploring the recruitment of him and he passed the tests, I'm backing Sam Power, Bevo & Bains to make the best call for the club.

Or we could stick to the original thread about Barrett and talk about this in the trade thread :-)

[mjp]

Or we could stick to the original thread about Barrett and talk about this in the trade thread :-)

To be fair, some of the best threads ever were entitled ‘ “username” please check your pms’ and my ‘Brisbane were ready for us’ thread from a week ago turned into an analysis of our kicking skills (again) and a referendum on The playability of Wood and Corey...

Going off the rails is what makes things fun.

[mjp]

I have more sympathy for someone brought up under his circumstances. No one wanted Sydney Stack and he has been turned around.

Syd’s circumstances growing up were significantly more challenging than Harley’s...but he was never, ever a risk at AFL level during a footy season. Harley is a bit more of a party boy (obviously). Both are very charismatic and likeable. I will continue to reiterate this and am pretty confident NO-ONE can talk about these two players more than I can.

[bornadog]

Syd’s circumstances growing up were significantly more challenging than Harley’s...but he was never, ever a risk at AFL level during a footy season. Harley is a bit more of a party boy (obviously). Both are very charismatic and likeable. I will continue to reiterate this and am pretty confident NO-ONE can talk about these two players more than I can.

Yeah, we are only guessing.

[Ghost Dog]

On Benell, I'm not sure eastern state journalists have done indigenous footy much justice in recent times. I'd like to know more about footy up there. Mangrook is great fun.
I can't remember the last time I read a really good article on the challenges indegenious players face on a practical level by mainstream journalists.. A story not being told well. Feel free to start a thread mjp!