Operation get Jake Carlisle

[GVGjr]

Carlisle arrived at training late this week and the playing group were all made to do an early morning session as a result. SEN believe it was a 5am start.

Is it a good move or a bad move by the Saints to make everyone pay for Carlisle's error?

I don't think it's a bad move.

[Maddog37]

Jake is proving to be a bit of a problem. I would be fairly shirty with him if I were one of his teammates.

[F'scary]

This will be off-set by the 15 free kicks in front of goal that Nick Riewoldt will get on his 300th match

We'll be the team that confirms he has played for one season too many. Bring it on!

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Carlisle arrived at training late this week and the playing group were all made to do an early morning session as a result. SEN believe it was a 5am start.

Is it a good move or a bad move by the Saints to make everyone pay for Carlisle's error?

I don't think it's a bad move.

My initial response is that it's a good move, but there a couple of issues:

1. One or two of his team mates won't agree with the decision, thus, potentially already putting him offside with a few of them.
2. If he stuffs up in the future, I am not sure what they can do next

He's created a few problems in only a few weeks. Couldn't have made a worse start.

[Ghost Dog]

St Kilda football marketing just cut their quota of Jake Carlisle coffee mugs and badges to the bare minim.

[azabob]

Gee, this guy just keeps giving and giving.

[GVGjr]

My initial response is that it's a good move, but there a couple of issues:

1. One or two of his team mates won't agree with the decision, thus, potentially already putting him offside with a few of them.
2. If he stuffs up in the future, I am not sure what they can do next

He's created a few problems in only a few weeks. Couldn't have made a worse start.

How I see it is if they fine him he won't really care, same if they made him do the early morning start. At least now he knows that when he stuffs up all his team mates pay a price. The club will soon work out if he just doesn't care about anyone else but himself and given the power of leadership groups in footy now he might not get a lot of support from them if he tests the club patience again.

[Twodogs]

St Kilda football marketing just cut their quota of Jake Carlisle coffee mugs and badges to the bare minim.

On the plus the Jake Carlisle toot spoons are flying off the shelves.

[Remi Moses]

This bloke is in gold medal position as the biggest moron in afl circles .
Pretty hard to get to training on time and split the atom also

[The Bulldogs Bite]

How I see it is if they fine him he won't really care, same if they made him do the early morning start. At least now he knows that when he stuffs up all his team mates pay a price. The club will soon work out if he just doesn't care about anyone else but himself and given the power of leadership groups in footy now he might not get a lot of support from them if he tests the club patience again.

Shouldn't they already known this though, if they've done their due diligence? There was plenty flying around regarding his character from merely a football fan's perspective. I'd imagine they'd have known the ins and outs - or at least should have, particularly given their heavy investment.

For mine, it feels like they've paid big money and coughed up a bit to get him with a bit of a "It'll be fine" attitude, and not only has it blown up in their face already, they're now trying to take the hard road with him. Which is fine to a degree, but he's already had multiple stuff ups and it's not even December. It almost becomes not a case of if but when he next makes a mistake, what do they do then?

I understand they're damned if they do damned if they don't in a sense, but from a neutrals perspective it's interesting to see how this all plays out. It could turn extremely pair shaped very quickly, and I think both parties could share some blame for that.

[Greystache]

It takes some time to un-Essendon someone. St Kilda need to be patient in trying to turn him into a professional footballer.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Carlisle arrived at training late this week and the playing group were all made to do an early morning session as a result. SEN believe it was a 5am start.

Is it a good move or a bad move by the Saints to make everyone pay for Carlisle's error?

I don't think it's a bad move.

Peer group pressure is very effective, especially in a professional team. It also says to the team: "Carlisle is part of us so we need to carry him just as he contributes to us." So everyone paying for Carlisle's error can also be a bonding experience and part of initiation for him. It stretches the friendship of course but the fool must be used to it.
Thanks to the universe and our professionalism that we didn't recruit him.