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    Quote Originally Posted by hujsh View Post
    I'd almost suggest he's worth more now as and established, clearly excellent defender than as a guy who had a great month in a premiership team but might go back to struggling in the VFL for all we knew. Was what happened to Fletch.
    I meant to date, prior to the 2016 trade period and after the run of form.

    Agree his value would be higher now.
    Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogtragic View Post
    We got Crozier back, voted most courageous in his first year with us and is arguably our most consistent medium defender for 18 months
    Why add this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by boydogs View Post
    Why add this?
    Because it's part of a relationship of professional goodwill we've built with Freo. One can see the Hamling trade in only isolation, or rather as one of many trades over the past three years that highlights a good working relationship where both clubs have been better off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogtragic View Post
    Because it's part of a relationship of professional goodwill we've built with Freo. One can see the Hamling trade in only isolation, or rather as one of many trades over the past three years that highlights a good working relationship where both clubs have been better off.
    Anytime they want to swap Hamling back for Crozier I'm happy to do it. I like Crozier but he ain't Joel Hamling nor does he have the effect on games that Joel has.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogtragic View Post
    Because it's part of a relationship of professional goodwill we've built with Freo. One can see the Hamling trade in only isolation, or rather as one of many trades over the past three years that highlights a good working relationship where both clubs have been better off.
    I think having to look at it that way to justify the Hamling trade shows you're reaching

    We lost out on Hamling, and did well with Crozier, but I don't see them as one transaction. Very dangerous to operate that way, assuming that was even the case, as staff and attitudes change from year to year
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    Quote Originally Posted by boydogs View Post
    I think having to look at it that way to justify the Hamling trade shows you're reaching

    We lost out on Hamling, and did well with Crozier, but I don't see them as one transaction. Very dangerous to operate that way, assuming that was even the case, as staff and attitudes change from year to year
    Tend to agree. Whether we could help it we lost out with Hamling, he's become a really good player for Fremantle. But, Crozier has become a better player with us. The transactions aren't linked as far as we know, but in my view we traded fairly and each club received a better outcome than from where they were.

    That's how trading should be. Countries don't trade with each other to make one stronger or weaker than the other, they trade to make each other better (in principle). That's how the AFL is and is supposed to be - rather than bending each other over, but we as fans lose that perspective from time to time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogtragic View Post
    Because it's part of a relationship of professional goodwill we've built with Freo. One can see the Hamling trade in only isolation, or rather as one of many trades over the past three years that highlights a good working relationship where both clubs have been better off.
    Do you honestly believe goodwill has anything to do with how a trade turns out? Recruiters are focused on one thing, the best outcome for their club.
    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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    In short, I'm not losing sleep over this trade. For three years both clubs have traded well with each other. I see a continuum of the last three years, I'm not linking one trade specifically with another. I see the micro and macro perspective of the trade. It does seem like we need to relitigate the past though. If it wasn't this trade, it would be the Brian Lake trade still being brought up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1eyedog View Post
    Do you honestly believe goodwill has anything to do with how a trade turns out? Recruiters are focused on one thing, the best outcome for their club.
    A lot of people will disagree with you there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogtragic View Post
    In short, I'm not losing sleep over this trade. For three years both clubs have traded well with each other. I see a continuum of the last three years, I'm not linking one trade specifically with another. I see the micro and macro perspective of the trade. It does seem like we need to relitigate the past though. If it wasn't this trade, it would be the Brian Lake trade still being brought up.
    Don't get me started again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Mo77 View Post
    Don't get me started again.
    Hrovat will be a gun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogtragic View Post
    Hrovat will be a gun.
    as will the Jones boy
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    Garry Lyon I reporting Joel Hamling has walked away from the Freo Football club. It’s also being reported Joel flew from GC to Melbourne on June 29th to meet with David Young.

    Do we actively go after Joel? What defensive role can he fill for us?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vred View Post
    Garry Lyon I reporting Joel Hamling has walked away from the Freo Football club. It’s also being reported Joel flew from GC to Melbourne on June 29th to meet with David Young.

    Do we actively go after Joel? What defensive role can he fill for us?
    I would be letting him know we can provide an opportunity for him.
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    Bring the Hammer home!
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