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02-06-2019, 05:17 PM
#181
Re: Hamling a Dog
Originally Posted by
hujsh
I'd almost suggest he's worth more now as and established, clearly excellent defender than as a guy who had a great month in a premiership team but might go back to struggling in the VFL for all we knew. Was what happened to Fletch.
I meant to date, prior to the 2016 trade period and after the run of form.
Agree his value would be higher now.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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02-06-2019, 06:33 PM
#182
Re: Hamling a Dog
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
We got Crozier back, voted most courageous in his first year with us and is arguably our most consistent medium defender for 18 months
Why add this?
If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.
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02-06-2019, 06:53 PM
#183
Re: Hamling a Dog
Originally Posted by
boydogs
Why add this?
Because it's part of a relationship of professional goodwill we've built with Freo. One can see the Hamling trade in only isolation, or rather as one of many trades over the past three years that highlights a good working relationship where both clubs have been better off.
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02-06-2019, 07:13 PM
#184
Re: Hamling a Dog
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
Because it's part of a relationship of professional goodwill we've built with Freo. One can see the Hamling trade in only isolation, or rather as one of many trades over the past three years that highlights a good working relationship where both clubs have been better off.
Anytime they want to swap Hamling back for Crozier I'm happy to do it. I like Crozier but he ain't Joel Hamling nor does he have the effect on games that Joel has.
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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03-06-2019, 01:45 AM
#185
Re: Hamling a Dog
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
Because it's part of a relationship of professional goodwill we've built with Freo. One can see the Hamling trade in only isolation, or rather as one of many trades over the past three years that highlights a good working relationship where both clubs have been better off.
I think having to look at it that way to justify the Hamling trade shows you're reaching
We lost out on Hamling, and did well with Crozier, but I don't see them as one transaction. Very dangerous to operate that way, assuming that was even the case, as staff and attitudes change from year to year
If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.
Formerly gogriff
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03-06-2019, 02:14 AM
#186
Re: Hamling a Dog
Originally Posted by
boydogs
I think having to look at it that way to justify the Hamling trade shows you're reaching
We lost out on Hamling, and did well with Crozier, but I don't see them as one transaction. Very dangerous to operate that way, assuming that was even the case, as staff and attitudes change from year to year
Tend to agree. Whether we could help it we lost out with Hamling, he's become a really good player for Fremantle. But, Crozier has become a better player with us. The transactions aren't linked as far as we know, but in my view we traded fairly and each club received a better outcome than from where they were.
That's how trading should be. Countries don't trade with each other to make one stronger or weaker than the other, they trade to make each other better (in principle). That's how the AFL is and is supposed to be - rather than bending each other over, but we as fans lose that perspective from time to time.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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03-06-2019, 07:34 AM
#187
Re: Hamling a Dog
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
Because it's part of a relationship of professional goodwill we've built with Freo. One can see the Hamling trade in only isolation, or rather as one of many trades over the past three years that highlights a good working relationship where both clubs have been better off.
Do you honestly believe goodwill has anything to do with how a trade turns out? Recruiters are focused on one thing, the best outcome for their club.
But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.
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03-06-2019, 10:41 AM
#188
Re: Hamling a Dog
In short, I'm not losing sleep over this trade. For three years both clubs have traded well with each other. I see a continuum of the last three years, I'm not linking one trade specifically with another. I see the micro and macro perspective of the trade. It does seem like we need to relitigate the past though. If it wasn't this trade, it would be the Brian Lake trade still being brought up.
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03-06-2019, 10:45 AM
#189
Re: Hamling a Dog
Originally Posted by
1eyedog
Do you honestly believe goodwill has anything to do with how a trade turns out? Recruiters are focused on one thing, the best outcome for their club.
A lot of people will disagree with you there.
"Critics from rival clubs would say the Bombers had not traded picks because they were harder to deal with than the Senate crossbench. Alternatively, one could say they valued their picks too highly to part with them. Whatever the cause, they did not trade in seasoned quality (Brendon Goddard was a free agent)." Jake Niall
April 27, 2019
You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus
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03-06-2019, 10:50 AM
#190
Re: Hamling a Dog
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
In short, I'm not losing sleep over this trade. For three years both clubs have traded well with each other. I see a continuum of the last three years, I'm not linking one trade specifically with another. I see the micro and macro perspective of the trade. It does seem like we need to relitigate the past though. If it wasn't this trade, it would be the Brian Lake trade still being brought up.
Don't get me started again.
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03-06-2019, 11:44 AM
#191
Re: Hamling a Dog
Originally Posted by
G-Mo77
Don't get me started again.
Hrovat will be a gun.
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03-06-2019, 12:27 PM
#192
Re: Hamling a Dog
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
Hrovat will be a gun.
as will the Jones boy
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14-08-2020, 12:22 PM
#193
Re: Hamling a Dog
Garry Lyon I reporting Joel Hamling has walked away from the Freo Football club. It’s also being reported Joel flew from GC to Melbourne on June 29th to meet with David Young.
Do we actively go after Joel? What defensive role can he fill for us?
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14-08-2020, 12:25 PM
#194
Re: Hamling a Dog
Originally Posted by
Vred
Garry Lyon I reporting Joel Hamling has walked away from the Freo Football club. It’s also being reported Joel flew from GC to Melbourne on June 29th to meet with David Young.
Do we actively go after Joel? What defensive role can he fill for us?
I would be letting him know we can provide an opportunity for him.
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14-08-2020, 12:30 PM
#195
Re: Hamling a Dog
Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket
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