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    Re: Who's the best-paid Dog?

    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    If all this is true then we should have been able to secure a 2nd round pick off GWS as part of the Griffen trade.
    Tend to agree but what's done is done. Whilst GWS were chastised for their hard nosed "under no circumstances" stance on Boyd which was inevitably reneged. They certainly positioned themselves for us to throw the sink at them.

    They got a great deal......but we got TOM BOYD!!!

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    Re: Who's the best-paid Dog?

    Pick 6, Griffen and a mil for Boyd, the boy better be able to pay.

    The more I look at it the more it seems we were royally taken to the cleaners, well played by the Giants(and Pickering).
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    Re: Who's the best-paid Dog?

    Quote Originally Posted by Murphy Contradicts Law View Post
    Wow, even the senior football writer of the age doesn't understand the concept of the minimum salary cap spend.
    We should have been using that money to entice a decent player, not paying some prick who shafted us.
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    Re: Who's the best-paid Dog?

    I tend to agree with the general thrust of the article, which is we've hitched ourselves to Tom Boyd in a big way and it better pay off.

    I thought at the time we'd overpaid, or not got enough back, and this reinforces that view.

    As far as the TPP surely we've run our estimates and forecasts, an are comfortable we'll be able to have enough to pay our players market rate.

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    Re: Who's the best-paid Dog?

    Hard to know what to make of this. GWS have gotten a good deal from us, but we have gotten Boyd, for essentially 1year of griffin.

    Whether we have overpaid won't be clear until much much much later. Griffin could win a brown low and Boyd could blow a knee. Or griffins back could pack it in and Boyd win the Coleman and the doggies a flag. Way too early to be calling this one.

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    Re: Who's the best-paid Dog?

    Looks like Caro forgot her HRT pills yesterday. What tripe.

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    Re: Who's the best-paid Dog?

    Whats tripe about it?
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    Re: Who's the best-paid Dog?

    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    If all this is true then we should have been able to secure a 2nd round pick off GWS as part of the Griffen trade.
    They were my thoughts that we overpaid.

    Boyd better work out or we have really stuffed up.
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    Re: Who's the best-paid Dog?

    Quote Originally Posted by chef View Post
    Whats tripe about it?

    The Bulldogs remain one of the AFL's most heavily subsidised clubs under the equalisation policy, meaning the competition will indirectly cover Griffen's pay packet.

    The 27-year-old joined the Giants under a front-loaded deal because under league rules the Bulldogs could not cover 100 per cent of Griffen's contract. He will earn close to $1million next season and about $1.5million over 2016, '17 and '18

    However, members of the AFL executive were surprised that the financially struggling club had agreed to cover so much of the Griffen contract.

    The deal was overseen by club chairman Peter Gordon, a generous Bulldogs benefactor, at a time of deep crisis for the club.

    That record remuneration for a player of his experience has also raised eyebrows among the managers of some of Boyd's talented young teammates.
    Never let the facts, research, naming names, or emotive drawn conclusions get in the way of real journalism eh?

    Griffen is 28, will basically be best part of 29 by the 2015 season. Who had raised eyebrows amongst the players, who from the AFL executive raised their eyebrows? 95% of the SC needs to be paid – financial struggle and the salary cap have little effect on each other. Using the fact Gordon has tipped in money previously as an emotive direction. Subsidisation under the equalisation policy and the indirect covering of Griffens contact – really? It’s TPP’s.

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    Re: Who's the best-paid Dog?

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    They were my thoughts that we overpaid.

    Boyd better work out or we have really stuffed up.
    if this goes pear shaped its going to screw us for nearly a decade.
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    Re: Who's the best-paid Dog?

    Quote Originally Posted by M.R.M View Post
    Never let the facts, research, naming names, or emotive drawn conclusions get in the way of real journalism eh?

    Griffen is 28, will basically be best part of 29 by the 2015 season. Who had raised eyebrows amongst the players, who from the AFL executive raised their eyebrows? 95% of the SC needs to be paid – financial struggle and the salary cap have little effect on each other. Using the fact Gordon has tipped in money previously as an emotive direction. Subsidisation under the equalisation policy and the indirect covering of Griffens contact – really? It’s TPP’s.
    Fair enough, I dont see it as tripe myself.
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    Re: Who's the best-paid Dog?

    Quote Originally Posted by chef View Post
    We should have been using that money to entice a decent player, not paying some prick who shafted us.
    What do we offer in exchange for this player? Is there any player we would pay $800,000 for that we could trade for without a 1st round pick? We aren't in a position where we should be recruiting older players so they'd also have to be young or in their prime making it even harder to trade.

    Sorry but I don't see any real practicality in this statement.

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    Re: Who's the best-paid Dog?

    Quote Originally Posted by hujsh View Post
    What do we offer in exchange for this player? Is there any player we would pay $800,000 for that we could trade for without a 1st round pick? We aren't in a position where we should be recruiting older players so they'd also have to be young or in their prime making it even harder to trade.

    Sorry but I don't see any real practicality in this statement.
    not only that but said player would only have gotten 800k for 1 year....

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    Re: Who's the best-paid Dog?

    That 800k could have helped convince a Greenwood type player to choose us (wouldn't have cost a first rounder) and a Membury to get ro us in the PSD or that sort of thing
    But I guess im not that pracital and just burning the 800k because we have to is a better idea.
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    Re: Who's the best-paid Dog?

    look its a huge risk but for mine the biggest concern is losing our other young talent. Bonts and Macrae will have a lot of money thrown at them so we are at greater risk of losing them with the money we are paying Boyd. This is where we need the guys to really bond and want to play together for a flag. In saying that the deal might not look like that much in 5 yrs time. Look for Cameron and other GWS guys to be offered similar deals next year. Im not fussed with losing pick 6, paying out Griff or not receiving a late second rounder. Firstly pick 6 in this years draft is wide open. Outside of the top 3, the next 10 could be a guess. And we were looking at Wright who looks like he could be slipping outside the top 10 anyway! Paying out Griff is only short-term and wont affect us at all considering how little of the salary cap we would have spent. 2nd rounder as part of the deal? Really think its neither here nor there. They didnt have that pick to give anyway. Lets not lose the opportunity to get Boyd because we really wanted pick 21 or something!

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