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07-04-2016, 12:13 PM
#181
Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean
So Toby has now played 6 games for us....the way he plays - it certainly seems like more.
If you forget his first game - where he was a sub and only came on for the last quarter or so from memory -
In the 5 full games he has played - he is averaging 20.2 possessions, and 6.2 marks per game - as well as 0.8 goals per game.
Its an extraordinarily successful start to his career, and in the absence of Dicko and Crameri - he's been a very important player for us already this season.
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07-04-2016, 02:02 PM
#182
Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean
Originally Posted by
Ozza
So Toby has now played 6 games for us....the way he plays - it certainly seems like more.
If you forget his first game - where he was a sub and only came on for the last quarter or so from memory -
In the 5 full games he has played - he is averaging 20.2 possessions, and 6.2 marks per game - as well as 0.8 goals per game.
Its an extraordinarily successful start to his career, and in the absence of Dicko and Crameri - he's been a very important player for us already this season.
Good call.
I've been raving about him to a few friends on exactly that: averaging 20 disposals is a fantastic effort from a young kid who isn't getting a heap of press just yet.
Does most things well, liking him jumping for marks because it's a strength of his.
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07-04-2016, 02:48 PM
#183
Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean
Looks a very intense and driven young man.
Needs to stop looping his kicks quite so much.
A natural footballer clearly and so competitive against multiple opponents at once which is amazing for his lack of experience. Anyone know how he is as an endurance athlete?
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07-04-2016, 03:01 PM
#184
Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean
Originally Posted by
The Bulldogs Bite
Good call.
I've been raving about him to a few friends on exactly that: averaging 20 disposals is a fantastic effort from a young kid who isn't getting a heap of press just yet.
Does most things well, liking him jumping for marks because it's a strength of his.
How was the mark over Bruce last week - he can get up high.
FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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07-04-2016, 04:59 PM
#185
Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean
Originally Posted by
Maddog37
Looks a very intense and driven young man.
Needs to stop looping his kicks quite so much.
A natural footballer clearly and so competitive against multiple opponents at once which is amazing for his lack of experience. Anyone know how he is as an endurance athlete?
Yep, really like the fact that he'll attack the ball in the air against multiple defenders just to make it a contest. With Crameri unavailable and Dickson injured, he is vital to our forward line structure.
Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.
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15-04-2016, 12:10 PM
#186
Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean
Toby McLean 2016 rankings against other qualifying rising stars:
Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Total Kicks
Ranked 9th among rising stars in Total Handballs
Ranked 5th among rising stars in Total Disposals
Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Total Marks
Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Total Goals
Ranked 5th among rising stars in Total Supercoach Score
Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Total AFL Fantasy Score
Ranked 6th among rising stars in Total Contested Possessions
Ranked 4th among rising stars in Total Uncontested Possessions
Ranked 5th among rising stars in Total Effective Disposals
Ranked 4th among rising stars in Total Contested Marks
Ranked 9th among rising stars in Total Clearances
Ranked 1st among rising stars in Total Bounces
Ranked 4th among rising stars in Kicks Per Game
Ranked 7th among rising stars in Disposals Per Game
Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Marks Per Game
Ranked 6th among rising stars in Goals Per Game
Ranked 7th among rising stars in Supercoach Score Per Game
Ranked 3rd among rising stars in AFL Fantasy Score Per Game
Ranked 9th among rising stars in Contested Possessions Per Game
Ranked 7th among rising stars in Uncontested Possessions Per Game
Ranked 6th among rising stars in Effective Disposals Per Game
Ranked 5th among rising stars in Contested Marks Per Game
Last edited by bulldogtragic; 15-04-2016 at 02:03 PM.
Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
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15-04-2016, 12:18 PM
#187
Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean
Love him, and love his ability to suck opponents into ripping his head off.
He's flying under the radar a little but his performances in the absence of Dickson and Crameri have been crucial.
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15-04-2016, 01:59 PM
#188
Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
Toby McLean 2016 rankings against other qualifying rI sing stars:
Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Total Kicks
Ranked 9th among rising stars in Total Handballs
Ranked 5th among rising stars in Total Disposals
Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Total Marks
Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Total Goals
Ranked 5th among rising stars in Total Supercoach Score
Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Total AFL Fantasy Score
Ranked 6th among rising stars in Total Contested Possessions
Ranked 4th among rising stars in Total Uncontested Possessions
Ranked 5th among rising stars in Total Effective Disposals
Ranked 4th among rising stars in Total Contested Marks
Ranked 9th among rising stars in Total Clearances
Ranked 1st among rising stars in Total Bounces
Ranked 4th among rising stars in Kicks Per Game
Ranked 7th among rising stars in Disposals Per Game
Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Marks Per Game
Ranked 6th among rising stars in Goals Per Game
Ranked 7th among rising stars in Supercoach Score Per Game
Ranked 3rd among rising stars in AFL Fantasy Score Per Game
Ranked 9th among rising stars in Contested Possessions Per Game
Ranked 7th among rising stars in Uncontested Possessions Per Game
Ranked 6th among rising stars in Effective Disposals Per Game
Ranked 5th among rising stars in Contested Marks Per Game
Stats prove he should have been a top 10 draft pick. But that is to our benefit.
Officially on the Bus-wagon
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15-04-2016, 02:07 PM
#189
Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean
Originally Posted by
F'scary
Stats prove he should have been a top 10 draft pick. But that is to our benefit.
Not sure that's correct given many of the top picks from his draft year are ineligible for the RS award and as such wouldn't be included in this ranking group.
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15-04-2016, 02:33 PM
#190
Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean
Originally Posted by
comrade
Love him, and love his ability to suck opponents into ripping his head off.
He's flying under the radar a little but his performances in the absence of Dickson and Crameri have been crucial.
Interesting.
Other players in the league get called horrendous cheats for doing just this.
"It's over. It's all over."
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15-04-2016, 03:06 PM
#191
Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean
Originally Posted by
EasternWest
Interesting.
Other players in the league get called horrendous cheats for doing just this.
I don't care about other players. In any case, no one in the league is as good at drawing the contact and making it look so bad that the umpire has no choice but call it. His peripheral vision to time it perfectly is truly an art form and displays a huge footy IQ.
Others might not like it, so be it. But I'll be cheering when he gets a free in front of goal that helps us win a final.
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15-04-2016, 03:22 PM
#192
Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean
Originally Posted by
comrade
I don't care about other players. In any case, no one in the league is as good at drawing the contact and making it look so bad that the umpire has no choice but call it. His peripheral vision to time it perfectly is truly an art form and displays a huge footy IQ.
Others might not like it, so be it. But I'll be cheering when he gets a free in front of goal that helps us win a final.
Yep I agree. He does nothing wrong within the rules of the AFL. He avoids the tackle by lowering the body. Selwood has done this for years and I have heard no one in the media call him a cheat.
FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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15-04-2016, 03:45 PM
#193
Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean
Originally Posted by
comrade
I don't care about other players. In any case, no one in the league is as good at drawing the contact and making it look so bad that the umpire has no choice but call it. His peripheral vision to time it perfectly is truly an art form and displays a huge footy IQ.
Others might not like it, so be it. But I'll be cheering when he gets a free in front of goal that helps us win a final.
What about if he hangs on to it in an attempt to draw a free kick, doesn't, and gets done holding the ball?
Opposition players will adjust. I don't like it but I'm OK with it as long as it's effective.
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15-04-2016, 04:24 PM
#194
Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Yep I agree. He does nothing wrong within the rules of the AFL. He avoids the tackle by lowering the body. Selwood has done this for years and I have heard no one in the media call him a cheat.
It's not media I'm referring to.
"It's over. It's all over."
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15-04-2016, 04:44 PM
#195
Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean
Originally Posted by
EasternWest
It's not media I'm referring to.
That's ok, who cares what supporters say.
FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.