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    Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

    So Toby has now played 6 games for us....the way he plays - it certainly seems like more.

    If you forget his first game - where he was a sub and only came on for the last quarter or so from memory -

    In the 5 full games he has played - he is averaging 20.2 possessions, and 6.2 marks per game - as well as 0.8 goals per game.

    Its an extraordinarily successful start to his career, and in the absence of Dicko and Crameri - he's been a very important player for us already this season.

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    Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

    Quote Originally Posted by Ozza View Post
    So Toby has now played 6 games for us....the way he plays - it certainly seems like more.

    If you forget his first game - where he was a sub and only came on for the last quarter or so from memory -

    In the 5 full games he has played - he is averaging 20.2 possessions, and 6.2 marks per game - as well as 0.8 goals per game.

    Its an extraordinarily successful start to his career, and in the absence of Dicko and Crameri - he's been a very important player for us already this season.
    Good call.

    I've been raving about him to a few friends on exactly that: averaging 20 disposals is a fantastic effort from a young kid who isn't getting a heap of press just yet.

    Does most things well, liking him jumping for marks because it's a strength of his.

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    Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

    Looks a very intense and driven young man.

    Needs to stop looping his kicks quite so much.

    A natural footballer clearly and so competitive against multiple opponents at once which is amazing for his lack of experience. Anyone know how he is as an endurance athlete?

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    Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

    Quote Originally Posted by The Bulldogs Bite View Post
    Good call.

    I've been raving about him to a few friends on exactly that: averaging 20 disposals is a fantastic effort from a young kid who isn't getting a heap of press just yet.

    Does most things well, liking him jumping for marks because it's a strength of his.
    How was the mark over Bruce last week - he can get up high.
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    Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

    Quote Originally Posted by Maddog37 View Post
    Looks a very intense and driven young man.

    Needs to stop looping his kicks quite so much.

    A natural footballer clearly and so competitive against multiple opponents at once which is amazing for his lack of experience. Anyone know how he is as an endurance athlete?
    Yep, really like the fact that he'll attack the ball in the air against multiple defenders just to make it a contest. With Crameri unavailable and Dickson injured, he is vital to our forward line structure.
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    Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

    Toby McLean 2016 rankings against other qualifying rising stars:

    Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Total Kicks
    Ranked 9th among rising stars in Total Handballs
    Ranked 5th among rising stars in Total Disposals
    Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Total Marks
    Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Total Goals
    Ranked 5th among rising stars in Total Supercoach Score
    Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Total AFL Fantasy Score
    Ranked 6th among rising stars in Total Contested Possessions
    Ranked 4th among rising stars in Total Uncontested Possessions
    Ranked 5th among rising stars in Total Effective Disposals
    Ranked 4th among rising stars in Total Contested Marks
    Ranked 9th among rising stars in Total Clearances
    Ranked 1st among rising stars in Total Bounces
    Ranked 4th among rising stars in Kicks Per Game
    Ranked 7th among rising stars in Disposals Per Game
    Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Marks Per Game
    Ranked 6th among rising stars in Goals Per Game
    Ranked 7th among rising stars in Supercoach Score Per Game
    Ranked 3rd among rising stars in AFL Fantasy Score Per Game
    Ranked 9th among rising stars in Contested Possessions Per Game
    Ranked 7th among rising stars in Uncontested Possessions Per Game
    Ranked 6th among rising stars in Effective Disposals Per Game
    Ranked 5th among rising stars in Contested Marks Per Game
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    Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

    Love him, and love his ability to suck opponents into ripping his head off.

    He's flying under the radar a little but his performances in the absence of Dickson and Crameri have been crucial.

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    Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogtragic View Post
    Toby McLean 2016 rankings against other qualifying rI sing stars:

    Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Total Kicks
    Ranked 9th among rising stars in Total Handballs
    Ranked 5th among rising stars in Total Disposals
    Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Total Marks
    Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Total Goals
    Ranked 5th among rising stars in Total Supercoach Score
    Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Total AFL Fantasy Score
    Ranked 6th among rising stars in Total Contested Possessions
    Ranked 4th among rising stars in Total Uncontested Possessions
    Ranked 5th among rising stars in Total Effective Disposals
    Ranked 4th among rising stars in Total Contested Marks
    Ranked 9th among rising stars in Total Clearances
    Ranked 1st among rising stars in Total Bounces
    Ranked 4th among rising stars in Kicks Per Game
    Ranked 7th among rising stars in Disposals Per Game
    Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Marks Per Game
    Ranked 6th among rising stars in Goals Per Game
    Ranked 7th among rising stars in Supercoach Score Per Game
    Ranked 3rd among rising stars in AFL Fantasy Score Per Game
    Ranked 9th among rising stars in Contested Possessions Per Game
    Ranked 7th among rising stars in Uncontested Possessions Per Game
    Ranked 6th among rising stars in Effective Disposals Per Game
    Ranked 5th among rising stars in Contested Marks Per Game
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    Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

    Quote Originally Posted by F'scary View Post
    Stats prove he should have been a top 10 draft pick. But that is to our benefit.
    Not sure that's correct given many of the top picks from his draft year are ineligible for the RS award and as such wouldn't be included in this ranking group.

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    Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

    Quote Originally Posted by comrade View Post
    Love him, and love his ability to suck opponents into ripping his head off.

    He's flying under the radar a little but his performances in the absence of Dickson and Crameri have been crucial.
    Interesting.

    Other players in the league get called horrendous cheats for doing just this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasternWest View Post
    Interesting.

    Other players in the league get called horrendous cheats for doing just this.
    I don't care about other players. In any case, no one in the league is as good at drawing the contact and making it look so bad that the umpire has no choice but call it. His peripheral vision to time it perfectly is truly an art form and displays a huge footy IQ.

    Others might not like it, so be it. But I'll be cheering when he gets a free in front of goal that helps us win a final.

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    Quote Originally Posted by comrade View Post
    I don't care about other players. In any case, no one in the league is as good at drawing the contact and making it look so bad that the umpire has no choice but call it. His peripheral vision to time it perfectly is truly an art form and displays a huge footy IQ.

    Others might not like it, so be it. But I'll be cheering when he gets a free in front of goal that helps us win a final.
    Yep I agree. He does nothing wrong within the rules of the AFL. He avoids the tackle by lowering the body. Selwood has done this for years and I have heard no one in the media call him a cheat.
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    Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

    Quote Originally Posted by comrade View Post
    I don't care about other players. In any case, no one in the league is as good at drawing the contact and making it look so bad that the umpire has no choice but call it. His peripheral vision to time it perfectly is truly an art form and displays a huge footy IQ.

    Others might not like it, so be it. But I'll be cheering when he gets a free in front of goal that helps us win a final.
    What about if he hangs on to it in an attempt to draw a free kick, doesn't, and gets done holding the ball?

    Opposition players will adjust. I don't like it but I'm OK with it as long as it's effective.

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    Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Yep I agree. He does nothing wrong within the rules of the AFL. He avoids the tackle by lowering the body. Selwood has done this for years and I have heard no one in the media call him a cheat.
    It's not media I'm referring to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasternWest View Post
    It's not media I'm referring to.
    That's ok, who cares what supporters say.
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