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Ten reasons we have our CHF already
Lots of negative posts around the fact that Jack is not up to AFL standard as a footballer. Get a bit annoyed by the negativity.I certainly agree that we haven't seen the best of him up till now, but I am hearing that he IS our CHF for the coming season and I see no reason he can't make this position his own.
1. He is big enough.
2. He is strong enough.
3. He can take a pack mark.
4. He is agile for his size.
5. He is an elite kick.
6. He is aggressive.
7. He works hard.
8. He wants it!!!!
9. He has the coach's confidence.
10. He's all we got. (please don't put Bonti there yet)
I can see him not just holding down the key position, but having a big influence on our 2015.
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I'm glad we have given him another 12 months and a senior position to prove himself and it will be interesting to see if he is in or close to our best 22.
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How good would it be if he can step up and fill that role. It would satisfy the three rules of real estate. We would have good structure for our many talented forwards to be creative and be given greater predictability of play. Our mids could look up and have another target to present.
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The measure of success is how many contests he can make and how much pressure he can take off Tom Boyd. I think if he plays an aggressive in-the-face, not-here-to-make-friends style and has the opposition players lining up to give him a piece of their mind or some push and shove, then he will be playing a valuable role in a very young line-up. Basically, he (and Big Will) have to be old style enforcers this season. If he gives away a few free kicks or gets suspended for being a protector, then so be it.
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If his work rate is up, he'll take some minding! I think his remit will simply be to contest, contest, contest. He's got some physical presence and, as a fully listed player now, he should be the fittest he's ever been.
The knock on him is that he doesn't clunk it enough, however he's rarely outmarked and will provide a straight, reliable target for our glut of clever small forwards to feed off.... At least a far more reliable target than Mr Jones..
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He wouldn't or shouldn't be on the playing list if he was missing many on the 10 reasons listed in the opening post but really there is only one question to ask and that is if he is good enough.
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Re: Ten reasons we have our CHF already
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
He wouldn't or shouldn't be on the playing list if he was missing many on the 10 reasons listed in the opening post but really there is only one question to ask and that is if he is good enough.
Most of them would apply to the majority of AFL players. I don't think his marking is a strength, particularly pack marking. I'm on record as saying I hope he makes it, but mostly I see Adam Morgan or Trent Bartlett. Honest triers without an elite skill to seperate them as key forwards.
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Hopefully his pec's are stronger than Adam Morgan's. Hopefully he's got the strength to just keep presenting.
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I mark him really low in footy IQ. He looks the part but compare him to someone like Lachie Hunter in terms of positioning, timing his leads, continually presenting and they are worlds apart
Hopefully he can improve as we could definitely use him
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Has he got the talent?
I think he will surprise us this year, but needs to work hard and make the position his own.
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Re: Ten reasons we have our CHF already
Originally Posted by
The Underdog
Most of them would apply to the majority of AFL players. I don't think his marking is a strength, particularly pack marking. I'm on record as saying I hope he makes it, but mostly I see Adam Morgan or Trent Bartlett. Honest triers without an elite skill to seperate them as key forwards.
He is definitely not Morgan!!! Seriously got more mongrel than Adam! Can see your Bartlett comparison, however I have this strong feeling he can bend his legs unlike Trent and he will upset backlines like.................who was our last backline upsetter???? .....b4 BH
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Originally Posted by
Avoid the rush
He is definitely not Morgan!!! Seriously got more mongrel than Adam! Can see your Bartlett comparison, however I have this strong feeling he can bend his legs unlike Trent and he will upset backlines like.................who was our last backline upsetter???? .....b4 BH
That's the first thing I thought too. He has a, not agressive, but he likes to make physical contact and he loves tackling, edge to his game. One tackle and goal in the last quarter of last year's VFL GF kept the momentum surging our way.
It'd be great to see him do that at AFL level.
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If Jack can bring an aggressive intent to apply physical pressure and hurt opponents, I think he can stick a spot in the 22. He might need to cover in the ruck to make himself more valuable, but he has the tools and mindset to become a favourite of mine.
Trent Bartlett was aslo a favourite of mine. Honest battler. I think Jack can be better.
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If he can be a Leigh Brown type it will be a great return on our patience.
But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.
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Great call Avoid the rush! Only starting to get consistent training loads into his body now. People forget he's done two knees. His last 12 months have been good progression and sounds like he's put his lid down over summer which will give himself the best chance to continue this. It's hardly a make or break year for him, very much looking forward to watching him go about it over the first 2 months of the year in particular.