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26-08-2021, 01:32 PM
#706
Re: Well Ruck Me.
Another way to look at it.
Here are the top 25 for hitouts. Who can we target.
2021 AFL League Hitouts Per Game Leaders (Minimum 5 Games Played) |
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Rank |
Player |
Team |
Games |
Hitouts for Last Game |
Average |
1 |
Brodie Grundy |
Magpies |
20 |
23 v Essendon, Round 23 |
32.40 |
2 |
Max Gawn |
Demons |
22 |
39 v Geelong, Round 23 |
31.95 |
3 |
Nicholas Naitanui |
Eagles |
22 |
53 v Brisbane, Round 23 |
31.09 |
4 |
Patrick Ryder |
Saints |
12 |
27 v West Coast, Round 19 |
30.00 |
5 |
Todd Goldstein |
Kangaroos |
22 |
41 v Adelaide, Round 23 |
29.64 |
6 |
Reilly O'Brien |
Crows |
20 |
28 v Port Adelaide, Round 21 |
29.40 |
7 |
Marc Pittonet |
Blues |
13 |
27 v GWS, Round 14 |
29.23 |
8 |
Oscar McInerney |
Lions |
21 |
24 v West Coast, Round 23 |
28.62 |
9 |
Sean Darcy |
Dockers |
21 |
16 v St Kilda, Round 23 |
28.52 |
10 |
Scott Lycett |
Power |
18 |
40 v Western Bulldogs, Round 23 |
26.50 |
11 |
Ned Reeves |
Hawks |
5 |
31 v Brisbane, Round 20 |
26.00 |
12 |
Shane Mumford |
Giants |
12 |
28 v Richmond, Round 22 |
24.42 |
13 |
Tom Hickey |
Swans |
20 |
24 v Gold Coast, Round 23 |
23.55 |
14 |
Sam Draper |
Bombers |
12 |
20 v Collingwood, Round 23 |
22.58 |
15 |
Toby Nankervis |
Tigers |
16 |
23 v GWS, Round 22 |
22.56 |
16 |
Zac Smith |
Suns |
9 |
26 v Sydney, Round 23 |
21.22 |
17 |
Jonathon Ceglar |
Hawks |
12 |
24 v Richmond, Round 23 |
20.92 |
18 |
Andrew Phillips |
Bombers |
6 |
25 v Richmond, Round 12 |
20.67 |
19 |
Jordon Sweet |
Bulldogs |
5 |
17 v Melbourne, Round 11 |
19.80 |
20 |
Rhys Stanley |
Cats |
16 |
33 v Melbourne, Round 23 |
19.38 |
21 |
Matthew Flynn |
Giants |
12 |
22 v Sydney, Round 18 |
18.50 |
22 |
Rowan Marshall |
Saints |
13 |
13 v Fremantle, Round 23 |
18.46 |
23 |
Stefan Martin |
Bulldogs |
7 |
8 v Fremantle, Round 12 |
17.57 |
24 |
Kieren Briggs |
Giants |
5 |
26 v Carlton, Round 23 |
17.00 |
25 |
Ben McEvoy |
Hawks |
22 |
13 v Richmond, Round 23 |
16.86 |
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FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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26-08-2021, 01:51 PM
#707
Re: Well Ruck Me.
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Another way to look at it.
Here are the top 25 for hitouts. Who can we target.
2021 AFL League Hitouts Per Game Leaders (Minimum 5 Games Played) |
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Rank |
Player |
Team |
Games |
Hitouts for Last Game |
Average |
1 |
Brodie Grundy |
Magpies |
20 |
23 v Essendon, Round 23 |
32.40 |
2 |
Max Gawn |
Demons |
22 |
39 v Geelong, Round 23 |
31.95 |
3 |
Nicholas Naitanui |
Eagles |
22 |
53 v Brisbane, Round 23 |
31.09 |
4 |
Patrick Ryder |
Saints |
12 |
27 v West Coast, Round 19 |
30.00 |
5 |
Todd Goldstein |
Kangaroos |
22 |
41 v Adelaide, Round 23 |
29.64 |
6 |
Reilly O'Brien |
Crows |
20 |
28 v Port Adelaide, Round 21 |
29.40 |
7 |
Marc Pittonet |
Blues |
13 |
27 v GWS, Round 14 |
29.23 |
8 |
Oscar McInerney |
Lions |
21 |
24 v West Coast, Round 23 |
28.62 |
9 |
Sean Darcy |
Dockers |
21 |
16 v St Kilda, Round 23 |
28.52 |
10 |
Scott Lycett |
Power |
18 |
40 v Western Bulldogs, Round 23 |
26.50 |
11 |
Ned Reeves |
Hawks |
5 |
31 v Brisbane, Round 20 |
26.00 |
12 |
Shane Mumford |
Giants |
12 |
28 v Richmond, Round 22 |
24.42 |
13 |
Tom Hickey |
Swans |
20 |
24 v Gold Coast, Round 23 |
23.55 |
14 |
Sam Draper |
Bombers |
12 |
20 v Collingwood, Round 23 |
22.58 |
15 |
Toby Nankervis |
Tigers |
16 |
23 v GWS, Round 22 |
22.56 |
16 |
Zac Smith |
Suns |
9 |
26 v Sydney, Round 23 |
21.22 |
17 |
Jonathon Ceglar |
Hawks |
12 |
24 v Richmond, Round 23 |
20.92 |
18 |
Andrew Phillips |
Bombers |
6 |
25 v Richmond, Round 12 |
20.67 |
19 |
Jordon Sweet |
Bulldogs |
5 |
17 v Melbourne, Round 11 |
19.80 |
20 |
Rhys Stanley |
Cats |
16 |
33 v Melbourne, Round 23 |
19.38 |
21 |
Matthew Flynn |
Giants |
12 |
22 v Sydney, Round 18 |
18.50 |
22 |
Rowan Marshall |
Saints |
13 |
13 v Fremantle, Round 23 |
18.46 |
23 |
Stefan Martin |
Bulldogs |
7 |
8 v Fremantle, Round 12 |
17.57 |
24 |
Kieren Briggs |
Giants |
5 |
26 v Carlton, Round 23 |
17.00 |
25 |
Ben McEvoy |
Hawks |
22 |
13 v Richmond, Round 23 |
16.86 |
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Who’s the most gettable on that list? Sweet?
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26-08-2021, 01:56 PM
#708
Re: Well Ruck Me.
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Another way to look at it.
Here are the top 25 for hitouts. Who can we target.
The guy at 19 might be worth a shot?
Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.
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26-08-2021, 01:57 PM
#709
Re: Well Ruck Me.
Originally Posted by
comrade
The guy at 19 might be worth a shot?
What about no.7?
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26-08-2021, 02:00 PM
#710
Re: Well Ruck Me.
Originally Posted by
Mantis
What about no.7?
Out of contract this year
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Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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26-08-2021, 02:11 PM
#711
Re: Well Ruck Me.
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Another way to look at it.
Here are the top 25 for hitouts. Who can we target.
2021 AFL League Hitouts Per Game Leaders (Minimum 5 Games Played) |
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I'd be going straight for number 1, as a deal could be done with the Pies.
"I'll give him a hug before the first bounce and then I'll run into my pack and give them orders to rip him apart."
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26-08-2021, 02:48 PM
#712
Re: Well Ruck Me.
Isn’t the current issue more around a lack of viable options up forward, with Tim being our best bet there, rather than us completely giving up on Tim as a ruckman? Sure Tim has had some challenges this year, but he’s also played some good footy. He’s going to add the most value (probably) doing 30:70 ruck:forward. But. He would 100000000% be our starting ruck this weekend if Bruce hadn’t been injured.
Don’t mind the talk of Ladhams / Chol. Both could add to our mix.
I’m increasingly wondering whether Lew may actually be the answer though. Some of his knocks to space were a thing of beauty…. Just a lack of familiarity which is causing the lack of connection. May be good for him too, he’s capable jumping and seems OK in the tougher stuff when thrust upon him.
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26-08-2021, 03:22 PM
#713
Re: Well Ruck Me.
Originally Posted by
Go_Dogs
Isn’t the current issue more around a lack of viable options up forward, with Tim being our best bet there, rather than us completely giving up on Tim as a ruckman? Sure Tim has had some challenges this year, but he’s also played some good footy. He’s going to add the most value (probably) doing 30:70 ruck:forward. But. He would 100000000% be our starting ruck this weekend if Bruce hadn’t been injured.
Don’t mind the talk of Ladhams / Chol. Both could add to our mix.
I’m increasingly wondering whether Lew may actually be the answer though. Some of his knocks to space were a thing of beauty…. Just a lack of familiarity which is causing the lack of connection. May be good for him too, he’s capable jumping and seems OK in the tougher stuff when thrust upon him.
I think Tim is seen as an excellent second ruck/fwd.
You has grown 4cm since being at the club and is 201cm, and as you say can jump. At this stage, I don't see him as the answer as number 1 ruck.
Last edited by bornadog; 26-08-2021 at 03:54 PM.
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26-08-2021, 03:49 PM
#714
Re: Well Ruck Me.
Jay sus English not even on the list WTF are we doing?
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26-08-2021, 04:04 PM
#715
Re: Well Ruck Me.
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Another way to look at it.
Here are the top 25 for hitouts. Who can we target.
2021 AFL League Hitouts Per Game Leaders (Minimum 5 Games Played) |
|
Rank |
Player |
Team |
Games |
Hitouts for Last Game |
Average |
1 |
Brodie Grundy |
Magpies |
20 |
23 v Essendon, Round 23 |
32.40 |
2 |
Max Gawn |
Demons |
22 |
39 v Geelong, Round 23 |
31.95 |
3 |
Nicholas Naitanui |
Eagles |
22 |
53 v Brisbane, Round 23 |
31.09 |
4 |
Patrick Ryder |
Saints |
12 |
27 v West Coast, Round 19 |
30.00 |
5 |
Todd Goldstein |
Kangaroos |
22 |
41 v Adelaide, Round 23 |
29.64 |
6 |
Reilly O'Brien |
Crows |
20 |
28 v Port Adelaide, Round 21 |
29.40 |
7 |
Marc Pittonet |
Blues |
13 |
27 v GWS, Round 14 |
29.23 |
8 |
Oscar McInerney |
Lions |
21 |
24 v West Coast, Round 23 |
28.62 |
9 |
Sean Darcy |
Dockers |
21 |
16 v St Kilda, Round 23 |
28.52 |
10 |
Scott Lycett |
Power |
18 |
40 v Western Bulldogs, Round 23 |
26.50 |
11 |
Ned Reeves |
Hawks |
5 |
31 v Brisbane, Round 20 |
26.00 |
12 |
Shane Mumford |
Giants |
12 |
28 v Richmond, Round 22 |
24.42 |
13 |
Tom Hickey |
Swans |
20 |
24 v Gold Coast, Round 23 |
23.55 |
14 |
Sam Draper |
Bombers |
12 |
20 v Collingwood, Round 23 |
22.58 |
15 |
Toby Nankervis |
Tigers |
16 |
23 v GWS, Round 22 |
22.56 |
16 |
Zac Smith |
Suns |
9 |
26 v Sydney, Round 23 |
21.22 |
17 |
Jonathon Ceglar |
Hawks |
12 |
24 v Richmond, Round 23 |
20.92 |
18 |
Andrew Phillips |
Bombers |
6 |
25 v Richmond, Round 12 |
20.67 |
19 |
Jordon Sweet |
Bulldogs |
5 |
17 v Melbourne, Round 11 |
19.80 |
20 |
Rhys Stanley |
Cats |
16 |
33 v Melbourne, Round 23 |
19.38 |
21 |
Matthew Flynn |
Giants |
12 |
22 v Sydney, Round 18 |
18.50 |
22 |
Rowan Marshall |
Saints |
13 |
13 v Fremantle, Round 23 |
18.46 |
23 |
Stefan Martin |
Bulldogs |
7 |
8 v Fremantle, Round 12 |
17.57 |
24 |
Kieren Briggs |
Giants |
5 |
26 v Carlton, Round 23 |
17.00 |
25 |
Ben McEvoy |
Hawks |
22 |
13 v Richmond, Round 23 |
16.86 |
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Plot twist - Nankervis.
Ivan Soldo comes back next year post ACL and CCJ stays at Richmond.
Ceglar would be gettable, Pittonet would be too but I don't think we'd consider him although he's at that age (25) where rucks can still improve.
Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers
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26-08-2021, 04:16 PM
#716
Re: Well Ruck Me.
in 2016 we didn't have a perfect list. But we had the hunger and desire.
Tom Boyd, Roughy hacking away in the ruck. Neither were perfect. But we got there.
You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus
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26-08-2021, 04:31 PM
#717
Re: Well Ruck Me.
Originally Posted by
Ghost Dog
in 2016 we didn't have a perfect list. But we had the hunger and desire.
Tom Boyd, Roughy hacking away in the ruck. Neither were perfect. But we got there.
Third man up masked some of Roughy's deficiencies in the ruck
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Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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26-08-2021, 04:37 PM
#718
Re: Well Ruck Me.
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Third man up masked some of Roughy's deficiencies in the ruck
Roughy I miss you mate.
The issue is our midfield is dropping away. That's really uncovering some deficiencies....
There have been plenty of times we got toasted in the ruck but it didn't affect us. Now it's a bit different.
You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus
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26-08-2021, 05:08 PM
#719
Re: Well Ruck Me.
Originally Posted by
1eyedog
Jay sus English not even on the list WTF are we doing?
That's what I was looking for.
Looking at some of those names ON the list and the fact that English isn't even on it .... well, Tim, that's bloody awful.
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26-08-2021, 05:36 PM
#720
Re: Well Ruck Me.
Originally Posted by
The Bulldogs Bite
That's what I was looking for.
Looking at some of those names ON the list and the fact that English isn't even on it .... well, Tim, that's bloody awful.
26 to 50
26 |
Tom De Koning |
Blues |
13 |
32 v GWS, Round 23 |
16.85 |
27 |
Paul Hunter |
Saints |
7 |
16 v Fremantle, Round 23 |
16.00 |
28 |
Timothy English |
Bulldogs |
18 |
1 v Port Adelaide, Round 23 |
15.61 |
29 |
Lloyd Meek |
Dockers |
9 |
27 v St Kilda, Round 23 |
14.22 |
30 |
Peter Ladhams |
Power |
15 |
5 v Western Bulldogs, Round 23 |
13.40 |
31 |
Mark Blicavs |
Cats |
21 |
5 v Melbourne, Round 23 |
12.33 |
32 |
Mabior Chol |
Tigers |
10 |
4 v Hawthorn, Round 23 |
12.30 |
33 |
Tom Campbell |
Kangaroos |
9 |
7 v Richmond, Round 21 |
10.78 |
34 |
Luke Jackson |
Demons |
21 |
7 v Geelong, Round 23 |
10.24 |
35 |
Nathan Vardy |
Eagles |
9 |
7 v Brisbane, Round 23 |
10.22 |
36 |
Peter Wright |
Bombers |
20 |
3 v Collingwood, Round 23 |
9.80 |
37 |
Chris Burgess |
Suns |
19 |
9 v Sydney, Round 23 |
9.32 |
38 |
Bailey Williams |
Eagles |
6 |
8 v Adelaide, Round 18 |
8.33 |
39 |
Joel Amartey |
Swans |
6 |
13 v GWS, Round 18 |
8.17 |
40 |
Sam Reid |
Swans |
10 |
2 v North Melbourne, Round 22 |
7.70 |
41 |
Callum Coleman-Jones |
Tigers |
8 |
12 v Hawthorn, Round 23 |
7.62 |
42 |
Tristan Xerri |
Kangaroos |
8 |
8 v Geelong, Round 20 |
7.38 |
43 |
Caleb Graham |
Suns |
12 |
7 v Brisbane, Round 19 |
6.83 |
44 |
Darcy Cameron |
Magpies |
18 |
4 v Essendon, Round 23 |
6.72 |
45 |
Esava Ratugolea |
Cats |
13 |
6 v St Kilda, Round 22 |
6.54 |
46 |
Lewis Young |
Bulldogs |
7 |
13 v Port Adelaide, Round 23 |
6.29 |
47 |
Levi Casboult |
Blues |
13 |
10 v GWS, Round 23 |
6.08 |
48 |
Charlie Dixon |
Power |
22 |
6 v Western Bulldogs, Round 23 |
4.27 |
49 |
Rory Lobb |
Dockers |
13 |
0 v Geelong, Round 18 |
4.15 |
FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.