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06-04-2023, 08:15 PM
#1306
Re: Well Ruck Me.
Originally Posted by
Stevo
Does anyone know if any of the Footscray listed boys are genuine rucks?
I hate seeing Khamis doing ruck work when he played junior football as half back flanker and somehow at the senior level he is being asked to back up English or Sweet.
We have two VFL ruck options - both are 200cm tall. They are Josh Patullo and the recently recruited Riley Smith. Neither have been selected to play in games this season so far.
Anyone can support a team that is winning, it takes no courage. But to stand behind a team, to defend a team when it is down and really needs you, that takes a lot of courage, so lets always be behind our boys and girls in red, white and blue.
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09-04-2023, 01:02 PM
#1307
Re: Well Ruck Me.
Bevo happy much?
Tim/Rory vs Nank/Ryan
3.1 Goals vs 1.0
34 Disposals vs 22
11 Marks vs 2
10 Tackles vs 8
6 I50 vs 1
12 Score Inv. vs 8
85 & 94 TOG vs 75 & 73
35 Hit Outs to 45
Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
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09-04-2023, 01:04 PM
#1308
Re: Well Ruck Me.
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
Bevo happy much?
Tim/Rory vs Nank/Ryan
3.1 Goals vs 1.0
34 Disposals vs 22
11 Marks vs 2
10 Tackles vs 8
6 I50 vs 1
12 Score Inv. vs 8
85 & 94 TOG vs 75 & 73
35 Hit Outs to 45
I thought Lobb played well in the ruck yesterday - for the first time it felt we weren?t exposed when English wasn?t there.
For me, Tim has finally got that early 2021 form back since that bad concussion and is starting to string together good games consistently over 4 qtrs.
On this trajectory he?ll be the best ruckman in the league next year
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09-04-2023, 01:36 PM
#1309
Re: Well Ruck Me.
I’ve been a big critic of Tim but he’s clearly gone to the next level. His tap work remains quality over quantity but his HTA rate is staggering so far, against some very quality opposition. He’s the front runner for the AA ruck spot and our B&F and he deserves a ton of praise for that.
Lobb hasn’t had the impact I was expecting but he hasn’t needed to.
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09-04-2023, 02:25 PM
#1310
Re: Well Ruck Me.
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
bevo happy much?
Tim/rory vs nank/ryan
3.1 goals vs 1.0
34 disposals vs 22
11 marks vs 2
10 tackles vs 8
6 i50 vs 1
12 score inv. Vs 8
85 & 94 tog vs 75 & 73
35 hit outs to 45
11 hta 10
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Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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09-04-2023, 04:29 PM
#1311
Re: Well Ruck Me.
Originally Posted by
jeemak
Stats are only useful to the person using them to make a point. To everyone else they're irrelevant and we should just accept that.
Stats are too often used to defend a point of view. Its often not needed.
Doing my best to use emojis more frequently
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09-04-2023, 04:52 PM
#1312
Re: Well Ruck Me.
Originally Posted by
Jasper
Stats are too often used to defend a point of view. Its often not needed.
With rucking, stats can be useful to prove a point.
If you say, someone had 40 hitouts, can sound misleading because it can assume the ruckman was dominant, but if only 5 are to advantage then it is not so good. So depends how you use and explain the stats.
FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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09-04-2023, 06:47 PM
#1313
Re: Well Ruck Me.
I was doubtful English would make it as a top notch ruckman. I?m very happy to eat my words. Bravo Timmy. After all the development and support we?ve shown I hope he re-signs with us.
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09-04-2023, 07:12 PM
#1314
Re: Well Ruck Me.
Originally Posted by
josie
I was doubtful English would make it as a top notch ruckman. I?m very happy to eat my words. Bravo Timmy. After all the development and support we?ve shown I hope he re-signs with us.
The problem with English in the number one ruck spot was he was put in the role years too early and given no real support.
His around the ground work has always been excellent but now his development has reached the stage where his ruck work is formidable even against the big bodies.
Most people expected him to get to this level, right back to the day he joined us. Great to see him get there, although parts of the evolution were frustrating.
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09-04-2023, 08:42 PM
#1315
Re: Well Ruck Me.
Originally Posted by
Danjul
The problem with English in the number one ruck spot was he was put in the role years too early and given no real support.
His around the ground work has always been excellent but now his development has reached the stage where his ruck work is formidable even against the big bodies.
Most people expected him to get to this level, right back to the day he joined us. Great to see him get there, although parts of the evolution were frustrating.
Most people also forgot he was a young buck and is now starting to mature.
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Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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10-04-2023, 10:31 PM
#1316
Re: Well Ruck Me.
Originally Posted by
Danjul
The problem with English in the number one ruck spot was he was put in the role years too early and given no real support.
His around the ground work has always been excellent but now his development has reached the stage where his ruck work is formidable even against the big bodies.
Most people expected him to get to this level, right back to the day he joined us. Great to see him get there, although parts of the evolution were frustrating.
Would he be here now if we didn't? We'll never know.
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22-04-2023, 08:17 PM
#1317
Re: Well Ruck Me.
So last night the two main ruckmen were the 2nd (English) and 5th (Darcy) highest ranked players on the ground.
What did we make of the contest? Clearly Darcy got his hands to more ball ups/throw-ins but English did not damage around the ground.
Are hit outs over-weighted in fantasy footy scoring?
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22-04-2023, 08:28 PM
#1318
Re: Well Ruck Me.
Originally Posted by
westdog54
So last night the two main ruckmen were the 2nd (English) and 5th (Darcy) highest ranked players on the ground.
What did we make of the contest? Clearly Darcy got his hands to more ball ups/throw-ins but English did not damage around the ground.
Are hit outs over-weighted in fantasy footy scoring?
Only if you use them to judge the quality of a player.
I thought both were really good, and agree with your summary. Given our clearance dominance you would have to say that Darcy's hitouts didn't hurt us.
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22-04-2023, 08:31 PM
#1319
Re: Well Ruck Me.
Originally Posted by
jazzadogs
Only if you use them to judge the quality of a player.
I thought both were really good, and agree with your summary. Given our clearance dominance you would have to say that Darcy's hitouts didn't hurt us.
It is genuinely weird when two players opposed to each other are both considered among the best afield.
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22-04-2023, 09:27 PM
#1320
Re: Well Ruck Me.
Originally Posted by
westdog54
It is genuinely weird when two players opposed to each other are both considered among the best afield.
Final round of 1996..........
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.