Following our exes...................

[bulldogtragic]

The Age reporting Brian Lake in custody over similar charges, again. It doesn't sound like he's got much of a chance of getting bail. Nor should he.

[comrade]

The Age reporting Brian Lake in custody over similar charges, again. It doesn't sound like he's got much of a chance of getting bail. Nor should he.

The guy is spiralling so much, even the footy boys club might be reluctant to bring him back.

[bulldogtragic]

Norm Smith medallist Brian Lake faces court on stalking charge. The Age.

Troubled former Hawthorn premiership winner Brian Lake has been charged with a number of new offences and will spend his second night in jail after being arrested over an incident on Tuesday.

Police said they arrested a 37-year-old Caroline Springs man at a house in Aintree, in Melbourne's outer west, about 9.30pm on Wednesday.

Lake, the 2013 Norm Smith medallist, has been charged with stalking, entering a place likely to cause a breach of the peace, theft, criminal damage and committing an indictable offence while on bail.

He appeared at Sunshine Magistrates Court n Thursday and has not been bailed.

It's expected that Lake will return to court to be sentenced on Friday afternoon.

Lake faced court in March charged with failing to answer bail, assault, trespass, property damage and stalking in relation to an Aintree address, believed to be that of his estranged partner.

In February, Lake's manager, Marty Pask, said the former player was receiving treatment for mental health issues in a private clinic.

He allegedly stalked a woman between February 15 and 17 this year, keeping her under video surveillance at her home address and saying he was listening to her private conversations via iPad software.

It's alleged he entered the Aintree property on February 17 and damaged a bedroom door valued at $200.

Lake played 251 AFL games, including 197 for the Western Bulldogs before crossing to Hawthorn, where he won three premierships and the Norm Smith medal.

The 37-year-old has become embroiled in controversy since his retirement in 2015.

Last July Lake spent six days in a Japanese prison cell after an alleged alteraction with a Japanese local while playing for the Indonesian Volcanoes in the AFL Asia tournament.

He was a contestant on Survivor Australia last year and has previously revealed the emotional turmoil of returning home in June last year to discover his wife was seeking a separation.

[bulldogtragic]

So (1) aggravated burglary (dropped), criminal damage, stalking, unlawful assault and trespassing. Plus (2) fail to answer bail, unlicensed driving and speeding. Now (3) stalking, entering a place likely to cause a breach of the peace, theft, criminal damage and committing an indictable offence while on bail.

On remand.

In serious trouble, bigly.

[hujsh]

Yeah he had his chance. Some time to cool off might not be the worst thing.

[Twodogs]

So (1) aggravated burglary (dropped), criminal damage, stalking, unlawful assault and trespassing. Plus (2) fail to answer bail, unlicensed driving and speeding. Now (3) stalking, entering a place likely to cause a breach of the peace, theft, criminal damage and committing an indictable offence while on bail.

On remand.

In serious trouble, bigly.

That's the really bad one isnt it? None of them are good but committing an offence while on bail just makes the court think you are removing the urine and abusing the system.

[merantau]

To be fair to Campbell he did have one of the worst knee injurys in the history of the game. The medical team at Monash Medical Centre compared it to the damage a motorbike accident would cause when they bought him in.

Thanks for the heads up. I didn't know that.

[bulldogtragic]

That's the really bad one isnt it? None of them are good but committing an offence while on bail just makes the court think you are removing the urine and abusing the system.

WD would know that a bit better with the reforms, if it's worse than the others (plus the context of the others isn't known fully). But your right, it's hard to throw a credible and believable argument at the Magistrate to believe that you can be trusted to be released and know how not to commit serious criminal offences. His recent track record is not appearing on bail, then committing offences on bail and then the new commit IO whilst on two sets of bail. The argument of behalf of the victims and public in general, is that only incarceration can protect them with his intentional breaching of the courts trust. I think that argument wins outright after today's news.

[bornadog]

Here it is:

Patrick Veszpremi? The former pick 11 in the '07 draft returns to the @VFL as a 29yo with @PortMelbourneFC after a 6-year hiatus. And in rd 1 he'll line up against his former team Willi

[jeemak]

Here it is:

Patrick Veszpremi? The former pick 11 in the '07 draft returns to the @VFL as a 29yo with @PortMelbourneFC after a 6-year hiatus. And in rd 1 he'll line up against his former team Willi

Happy reckons he has a massive skinny fat dad bod vibe, it will be interesting to see how he goes (Happy's view is from the other side of a Fitzroy jump, so he's pretty well informed I'd think).

Good luck Vesz, see if you can be a variant of me retiring at pretty much your age as the fattest and oldest person to ever suffer from OP!

[jeemak]

Brian Lake is showing all of the hallmarks of a serious domestic violence offender, and he needs to be removed from society for a spell if the accusations and charges are proved true.

It's shit that it has happened to him and those involved (especially the latter), but ultimately there's a huge element of entitlement playing out that needs to be stopped completely, because the behaviour is so much more dangerous than how it's being slated within the media. If true his behaviour is disgusting.

[Testekill]

Man, I'm sure glad that Lake wants to be remembered as a Hawk because holy shit has he gone off the rails since retirement.

[Twodogs]

WD would know that a bit better with the reforms, if it's worse than the others (plus the context of the others isn't known fully). But your right, it's hard to throw a credible and believable argument at the Magistrate to believe that you can be trusted to be released and know how not to commit serious criminal offences. His recent track record is not appearing on bail, then committing offences on bail and then the new commit IO whilst on two sets of bail. The argument of behalf of the victims and public in general, is that only incarceration can protect them with his intentional breaching of the courts trust. I think that argument wins outright after today's news.

Cheers BT. One lesson I have learned in life is always respect what the beak says. Say what you like to the coppers (unless its on tape and even then you can talk your way out of it) but Magistrates hate it when they give you a chance and you *!*!*!*! up, it makes them look like a dickhead and they take it personally.

[westdog54]

WD would know that a bit better with the reforms, if it's worse than the others (plus the context of the others isn't known fully). But your right, it's hard to throw a credible and believable argument at the Magistrate to believe that you can be trusted to be released and know how not to commit serious criminal offences. His recent track record is not appearing on bail, then committing offences on bail and then the new commit IO whilst on two sets of bail. The argument of behalf of the victims and public in general, is that only incarceration can protect them with his intentional breaching of the courts trust. I think that argument wins outright after today's news.

If I'm reading the original post correctly there's an indication that he's playing guilty. Best thing he can do.

In saying that, I don't see how he doesn't serve a term of imprisonment.

The commit indictable offence whilst on bail is taken fairly seriously, given you're essentially breaking a contract with the court. It is an aggravating factor when an overall sentence is decided.

Family Violence + repeat offending + same victim + whilst on bail = a bad result for Brian.

[bulldogtragic]

If I'm reading the original post correctly there's an indication that he's playing guilty. Best thing he can do.

In saying that, I don't see how he doesn't serve a term of imprisonment.

The commit indictable offence whilst on bail is taken fairly seriously, given you're essentially breaking a contract with the court. It is an aggravating factor when an overall sentence is decided.

Family Violence + repeat offending + same victim + whilst on bail = a bad result for Brian.

We can only hope that the court makes a public example of him. A piss weak sentence would undercut the seriousness of the offending and the seriousness of the police determination (& community organisations) to rid this cancer in our society.

As an aside, I wonder why there's no intervention order in place after the first one? After the first incident, at the time an agg burg, I would've hoped that an IVO would've been sought. Maybe now?