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09-02-2023, 09:49 AM
#3646
Re: Following our ex's...................
I know it's easy to hate on Stringer, I've done it plenty because he's such an easy and large target (see I did it again) but it's just a shame we'll never see what a 10-12 kg lighter Jake might have been like. A freakish talent gone to waste in a largely mediocre career.
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09-02-2023, 09:58 AM
#3647
Re: Following our ex's...................
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
I listened to that today. While a lot of people don't like Kane he often makes some very valid points.
Stringer has underachieved on his talent over a period of time and it should be called out.
It is the contradictions that bring Kane undone. He will criticise Stringer in this case then use him as an example of a great player Bevo has lost a handle on. Obviously lots of angles to what happened with us but we are looking pretty vindicated right now.
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09-02-2023, 10:41 AM
#3648
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Such a shame he hasn’t had the mental side of his game to support getting him in the right physical shape. All those years ago when we drafted him and the stories about how he’d worked so hard following breaking his leg had me convinced that would be one part of his game we’d never need to work on.
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09-02-2023, 11:05 AM
#3649
Re: Following our ex's...................
Originally Posted by
EasternWest
I know it's easy to hate on Stringer, I've done it plenty because he's such an easy and large target (see I did it again) but it's just a shame we'll never see what a 10-12 kg lighter Jake might have been like. A freakish talent gone to waste in a largely mediocre career.
We did see it. It was the last think Kyle Hartigan ever saw before his life was taken.
Honestly if 2015 was the best that Stringer possibly could’ve been then it’s a level few have reached. I just wish we didn’t fumble what in hindsight would have proven to be the pretty decent return we got for him.
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09-02-2023, 11:35 AM
#3650
Re: Following our ex's...................
Originally Posted by
EasternWest
I know it's easy to hate on Stringer, I've done it plenty because he's such an easy and large target (see I did it again) but it's just a shame we'll never see what a 10-12 kg lighter Jake might have been like. A freakish talent gone to waste in a largely mediocre career.
That goal he kicked in the last qtr of the GF required a level of freakish skill that can only be done by a small handful of people in the game's history. He's a premiership hero of the club and we don't have many of those.
The added bonus for me is that he has predictably underperformed at the Hanger and given those pricks false hope and expectations. We stuffed the trade up a bit but we were never going to have a net loss becaue Jake simply lacks the total desire and dedication and ruthlessness to be the absolute best player he could have been - on raw talent, he could and should have consistently been at Dusty/Petracca levels. In truth, he peaked in late 2014 and the full 2015 season and he's barely shown intermittent glimpses since then (and usually only in a contract renewal year).
He will probably pull a massive season out next year when he is up for contract renewal again and then revert to type when the money is in the bank.
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09-02-2023, 11:49 AM
#3651
Re: Following our ex's...................
Originally Posted by
Sedat
In truth, he peaked in late 2014 and the full 2015 season and he's barely shown intermittent glimpses since then (and usually only in a contract renewal year).
It's a real shame that he fell apart from mid 2016 and only showed some glimpses in the finals. We forget how good he was as a young player.
Some highlights from 2014 to 2016
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09-02-2023, 12:11 PM
#3652
Re: Following our ex's...................
Originally Posted by
bornadog
It's a real shame that he fell apart from mid 2016 and only showed some glimpses in the finals. We forget how good he was as a young player.
Some highlights from 2014 to 2016
Not sure if it's the colours or not, however he looks so much leaner in those highlights.
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09-02-2023, 12:31 PM
#3653
Re: Following our ex's...................
Originally Posted by
bornadog
It's a real shame that he fell apart from mid 2016 and only showed some glimpses in the finals. We forget how good he was as a young player.
I haven't forgotten. On pure talent, he is one of the most talented that I've ever seen. It's just a shame about his ability or desire to showcase that talent consistently.
His first goal in a NAB cup game at Docklands set us up for the ride that was to follow over the next few years. Stepped around a clueless opponent and snapped it through off the outside of his boot. The 2015 final when he kicked the goal to put us ahead (I think?). The Kyle Hartigan game. The Brisbane game where 3 people fell down trying to tackle him at the same time before he slotted the goal. The 2016 GF goal. He did some amazing things for us.
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09-02-2023, 02:18 PM
#3654
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Originally Posted by
EasternWest
I know it's easy to hate on Stringer, I've done it plenty because he's such an easy and large target (see I did it again) but it's just a shame we'll never see what a 10-12 kg lighter Jake might have been like. A freakish talent gone to waste in a largely mediocre career.
I recall attending the Sydney game in 2015 and Stringer did something outstanding.
The Sydney supporter beside me remarked on his brilliance.
My comment was that he was the only threat to Bont being recognised as the best player in the comp.
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09-02-2023, 02:20 PM
#3655
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Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
Not sure if it's the colours or not, however he looks so much leaner in those highlights.
He only looks leaner because he was.
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09-02-2023, 02:32 PM
#3656
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He was amazing. I'm sure he still could be but not sure he ever will be. Was prob my fave player in 15/16 and towards the end of 16 I was trying to convince everyone I knew he'd come good again. Supreme talent but you gotta say that each time he shows up unprepared, it proves Bevo even more correct to get rid of him.
I'm sure he'll still play some good footy. Hopefully not against us.
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09-02-2023, 07:01 PM
#3657
Re: Following our ex's...................
Originally Posted by
Happy Days
We did see it. It was the last think Kyle Hartigan ever saw before his life was taken.
Honestly if 2015 was the best that Stringer possibly could’ve been then it’s a level few have reached. I just wish we didn’t fumble what in hindsight would have proven to be the pretty decent return we got for him.
Agree with most of this, but the point is we saw the best of him at that time in his relatively nascent career.
Imagine what he would have been like with 5 or 6 more years of ultra professionalism?
Wew lad.
"It's over. It's all over."
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09-02-2023, 07:38 PM
#3658
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There should be mention of Kyle Hartigan's murder on his Wikipedia page but there isn't.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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09-02-2023, 09:11 PM
#3659
Re: Following our ex's...................
Originally Posted by
jeemak
There should be mention of Kyle Hartigan's murder on his Wikipedia page but there isn't.
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10-02-2023, 07:29 AM
#3660
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I loved watching Jake Stringer. He had abilities that others didn’t. Great shame that he seems content to just go through the motions