List Management 2015

[Mofra]

As BT has noted, it will be Port's loss not to have traded Lobbe this year because there's no way that Ryder and Dixon won't be played next year with the fat contracts that they are on. Hopefully he has another indifferent year and can be picked up on the cheap in 12 months' time

This would be my hope - especially considering he knows we're interested

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Not sure why the negativity on Lobbe. He was borderline elite in 2013-2014 when he was 1st ruck and he would undoubtedly be an upgrade on any of our current ruckmen - some of us are rating Campbell and Roughy on potential to improve and not on current output thus far, and we all know Minno's limitations in the modern game. My only problem with the trade would be the over-weighting of similar ruck types on our list - Lobbe is basically a better version of Campbell and Minson in all facets, and had we picked him up and not off-loaded at least Minson then our list would be top-heavy.

Goldstein used to really struggle when rucking in tandem with McIntosh and has blossomed since being given the #1 mantle. Lobbe is currently in a similar position at Port - he thrives on the extra workload and responsibility of being head banana.

As BT has noted, it will be Port's loss not to have traded Lobbe this year because there's no way that Ryder and Dixon won't be played next year with the fat contracts that they are on. Hopefully he has another indifferent year and can be picked up on the cheap in 12 months' time

The negativity is based around what we would have coughed up. Pick 11 (or Pick 20/21 now effectively) + Minson/Campbell/Roughy is much better than Lobbe/Minson/Campbell/Roughy.

Lobbe is an upgrade but not by much. As you said he's a better version of Minson, but in reality he still is a player who can't mark, find enough of the ball or play anywhere else other than ruck. I'd much rather we get a 5% (roughly) downgrade return on our current ruck stocks and (hopefully) pick up two quality players at 20/211 than invest heavily in Lobbe.

If we can get him cheaper next season then I'm fine with it.

[Mofra]

Interesting we haven't nominated Darcy MacPherson.
Looking a little more at list balance this draft by the look of it.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Interesting we haven't nominated Darcy MacPherson.
Looking a little more at list balance this draft by the look of it.

Correct (and somewhat forced) decision given the smaller types we've recruited over the last 3 years.

Assuming he gets picked up it'll be interesting to compare say Honeychurch and MacPherson.

[always right]

With so many small players on our list currently, we are going to have some interesting decisions come the end of the year as to who we retain and who we potentially trade/delist.

Of the mosquito fleet most seem to think Hrovat is the most vulnerable. Personally I think Hrovat has shown greater potential than Honeychurch so far. Neither blessed with great pace but Hrovat plays a more explosive style so I have him in front at the moment. Caleb has gone past both already.

[hujsh]

Koops, Street, Rawlings, Young, Vezpremi, Sherman.... That somebody is doing ok, but they need to lift their game.

That was the old guy. He was fired for incompetence. The replacement is much better.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

I think the small forward we are talking about is the crumbing forward who can turn a half chance into a goal and cause panic amongst the defenders with his speed. Dicko is more of a mark and kick forward.

Jarrad Grant could play that small forward role as he did in 2013 before injury. His snaps are as good as Dahl's. Alas not to be.

[1eyedog]

Interesting we haven't nominated Darcy MacPherson.
Looking a little more at list balance this draft by the look of it.

If we thought he was good enough we would have picked him up, but not to be. We've clearly got no problem stockpiling a type with a view to assessing who the flotsam and jetsam are at a later date.

[Mofra]

Jarrad Grant could play that small forward role as he did in 2013 before injury. His snaps are as good as Dahl's. Alas not to be.

We don't play a specialist small forward anymore though - I do think in a team that plays that role he'd be useful

[always right]

Any interest in Majak Daw? North plan to rookie him.....if he's available.

[GVGjr]

Any interest in Majak Daw? North plan to rookie him if he's.....available.

He would have to be cleared from his charges before we could even consider.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Any interest in Majak Daw? North plan to rookie him.....if he's available.

This country and the African diaspora need an African born player to succeed at AFL. I hope Daw is innocent and succeeds, with us would be good.

[bornadog]

This country and the African diaspora need an African born player to succeed at AFL. I hope Daw is innocent and succeeds, with us would be good.

I was hoping some years back we could list him, but North beat us. Not sure what has happened to his development, he will be 25 next year by the time the season starts so should be starting his peak years.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

I was hoping some years back we could list him, but North beat us. Not sure what has happened to his development, he will be 25 next year by the time the season starts so should be starting his peak years.

Is he that old already? It must be time for a change of team and development. However with charges pending it's hard to see anyone else taking him on.

[Sedat]

He would have to be cleared from his charges before we could even consider.

Purely from a playing perspective he does add a different skill set to the ruck role than what we currently have on our list. His knowledge of the game has improved in leaps and bounds since he was initially drafted but he was coming from a mile back (not dissimilar to Redders in terms of year-by-year improvement). But he's going nowhere at Norf stuck behind Goldy, Petrie and co.

I don't mind him at all as a potential rookie selection (off-field issues pending of course).