Michael Talia

[Eastdog]

It was a disappointing game for Michael yesterday but I still feel that when he gets his confidence he'll be an important part of our defensive structure. With Roughy and Roberts to come back what role do we see Michael playing down there.

[boydogs]

He looks big but I think he is lacking core strength, his weakness in 1 on 1's seems to come from trying to reach around his opponent to spoil instead of shifting them off the ball

More games and preseasons should help him improve

[F'scary]

I think Talia can play better. He is worth his spot on the list for another season or two for where he is at the moment and he needs to develop more, probably playing in the VFL more than the AFL over the next season.

[anfo27]

Clearly just a depth player for mine. His one on one work is terrible and has been for the last two years. Bevo's team defence has hidden his weaknesses very well for the most part. It's got very little to do with his core strength imo but rather his lack of confidence in his own ability. When he does do ok its because he backs himself in the contest instead of always looking for his opponent.

I personally have zero confidence in Michael becoming a 100 game player for the club. He has some currency and i would seriously look at trading him.

[1eyedog]

What role? Helping Footscray go back to back. I had high hopes for him last year because he looked likely in a few matches but he is one of the few players who has gone backwards under Bevo. He is misreading the flight of the ball, getting outmuscled in one on one contests and his direct opponent is losing him way too easily.

[Go_Dogs]

I'm not prepared to write him off because he has at times this season shown he has some of the tools to develop into a reliable defender who is prepared to work on the transition too.

He clearly still has a few areas he needs to continue to work on, but I think ultimately with our best side in and our team defence holding up across the park he's capable of playing as that second/third defender.

It will be interesting to see whether he considers his future is best placed at another club, but given our other key defenders have injury concerns and maybe lack in durability I'm reluctant to do anything other than sign Talia up again.

[Mantis]

If Michael wants to explore his options then we shouldn't stand in his way, but happy it give him more time if he wants. In saying that I don't see him being anywhere near our best 22 when everyone is available.. His inability to defend is a real problem, and one that isn't improving.. Yet?

[soupman]

Talia's biggest strength atm is his durability, which is the one thing the rest of our key defenders do not have.

Should we get another key defender in I would be looking at offloading Talia for the best deal available. He is capable at AFL level, but has to many limitations to excel.

[Mofra]

He is generally good at judging the flight of the ball, but is poor one on one and has been since he was drafted - his lack of gametime last year was due to his poor progress in not overcoming a basic weakness in his game.

I'd rather keep him as we have poor depth in the KPD position but I'd understand if he wants to look elsewhere.

[Sedat]

He is generally good at judging the flight of the ball, but is poor one on one and has been since he was drafted.

Daniel must have owned poor Michael in the backyard because he is elite one-on-one.

[Greystache]

He is generally good at judging the flight of the ball, but is poor one on one and has been since he was drafted - his lack of gametime last year was due to his poor progress in not overcoming a basic weakness in his game.

I'd rather keep him as we have poor depth in the KPD position but I'd understand if he wants to look elsewhere.

To me this is his glaring flaw. He doesn't seem to have any idea where the ball's going in flight which means he's totally reliant on his opponent to give him a guide as to where to position himself. It's why he's always watching his opponent in a one on one and seems a few steps behind and off balance. It's also why he so often goes 3rd man up and completely misses the ball with his spoil. It's a massive problem for an aspiring AFL key position player to try to overcome.

[Stefcep]

To me this is his glaring flaw. He doesn't seem to have any idea where the ball's going in flight which means he's totally reliant on his opponent to give him a guide as to where to position himself. It's why he's always watching his opponent in a one on one and seems a few steps behind and off balance. It's also why he so often goes 3rd man up and completely misses the ball with his spoil. It's a massive problem for an aspiring AFL key position player to try to overcome.

so what is the modern theory for a defender? Watch the opponent and go where he goes, or watch the ball and leave the opponent to go for the ball?

[Greystache]

so what is the modern theory for a defender? Watch the opponent and go where he goes, or watch the ball and leave the opponent to go for the ball?

There's nothing modern about one on one defending. You have to watch the ball and know where it's going all you're screwed, that's the starting point. Then it's a matter of body positioning and being strong enough to hold you're ground or having the reach to get your fist to the ball first.

[Cyberdoggie]

To me this is his glaring flaw. He doesn't seem to have any idea where the ball's going in flight which means he's totally reliant on his opponent to give him a guide as to where to position himself. It's why he's always watching his opponent in a one on one and seems a few steps behind and off balance. It's also why he so often goes 3rd man up and completely misses the ball with his spoil. It's a massive problem for an aspiring AFL key position player to try to overcome.

I totally agree, I think he gets completely lost when he has to look at both his opponent and the ball coming in. Seems to get caught in two minds and react very slowly if one of the variables change.

He has also been poor when deciding to run off his man when a long ball is coming in, thinking he can intercept or spoil as the 3rd man up but totally misreading where the ball is coming in and the time it takes him to get there. I've seen him try to do this and still be running in 10 metres from the contest, while leaving his man running back to the goal square for an easy goal on a couple of occasions.

I think he does a few things ok but he has these few weaknesses which are huge for a defender and I don't think any amount of coaching can teach a player to have awareness like an Easton Wood or Bob Murphy.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

To me this is his glaring flaw. He doesn't seem to have any idea where the ball's going in flight which means he's totally reliant on his opponent to give him a guide as to where to position himself. It's why he's always watching his opponent in a one on one and seems a few steps behind and off balance. It's also why he so often goes 3rd man up and completely misses the ball with his spoil. It's a massive problem for an aspiring AFL key position player to try to overcome.

Agreed, this frustrates me no end. He gives away so many free kicks because he focuses on his opponent rather than the flight of the ball.

In a weird way, Talia has done well to date given the extreme limitations in his game. Our injuries have helped, but for mine, having had a good look at him this year I'd persist elsewhere.