Thanks Thanks:  35
Likes Likes:  224
Page 7 of 24 FirstFirst 1234567891011121314151617 ... LastLast
Results 91 to 105 of 346

Thread: Tom Boyd 2016

  1. #91
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Qld.
    Posts
    9,669
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Tom Boyd 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis View Post
    Whilst it's important that he practices such that he is comfortable with is technique he also has to pay attention to what is happening with the flight of the ball.

    In a previous life (pre-kids) I was a pretty handy golfer and through my practice I got to a stage where I could stand over the ball and know if I put a reasonable swing on it which shape of shot I would hit.

    When watching Tom kick at present it's clear that he is moving the ball right to left in the air, but other than one kick against Freo he has made no allowance to this and is continuing to aim centre and miss left
    .
    Yes I agree with this. His high ball drop doesn't help either.

  2. #92
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    6,681
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Tom Boyd 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis View Post
    Whilst it's important that he practices such that he is comfortable with is technique he also has to pay attention to what is happening with the flight of the ball.

    In a previous life (pre-kids) I was a pretty handy golfer and through my practice I got to a stage where I could stand over the ball and know if I put a reasonable swing on it which shape of shot I would hit.

    When watching Tom kick at present it's clear that he is moving the ball right to left in the air, but other than one kick against Freo he has made no allowance to this and is continuing to aim centre and miss left.
    To put a slightly different spin (no pun intended) on this, I'm a semi-automatic pistol instructor.

    Its generally fairly easy to diagnose what is happening with a shooter's fundamentals if there's a common area of the target they are hitting when they are aiming for the centre. From there, we can work on their fundamentals to get them shooting straight.

    Whilst kicking a footy and firing a pistol are vastly different endeavours, and I have no expertise on kicking a football, I can only imagine there's a biomechanical reason that some players have a 'bend' in their kick (Jon Thurston and Buddy Franklin come to mind) and others can simply hit it straight (Tory Dickson says hello)

    I'd like to think that this is something that VU can explore deeper with Tom, so that the simplistic 'aim it left to hit the centre' approach can be avoided.

    Quote Originally Posted by Happy Days View Post
    I got an A+ in year 12 English giving an oral presentation on how shit of an umpire Shane McInernay is.
    Whilst its probably not what the Like button was intended for, this is one of my favourite posts of the year.

  3. #93
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    8,900
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Tom Boyd 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Three from free kicks from the first 5.
    And there's the game done right there.

  4. #94
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Posts
    19,165
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Tom Boyd 2016

    A lot depends on which part of the foot the ball makes contact with. For a right foot player right to left swing can be more prevalent if the footy comes off the outside of the boot. Off the instep it's more likely to go left to right.

    i haven't watched closely enough to see whether he points his toes to the left exposing the outside of the boot, it might be a simple matter of working on that - plus he needs to drop the ball closer to his boot.

  5. #95
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    sydenham
    Posts
    12,954
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Tom Boyd 2016

    Interesting how a player walks in when having a shot at goal .. I was with an ex player on weekend and Boyd was having a shot at goal and we were right behind him . He pointed out look at his shoulders one is lower than the other as he walks in, went on to explain what would happen and why when he kicked it and it happened..
    He has a lot of corrections to make, which is a good sign he has a lot of improvement to come.
    I remember hearing once that players at training don't actually practice goal kicking as such and focus on game plan, positions etc.
    if that's true it's silly,no wonder players are terrible in front of goal.
    Has anyone ever watched training and saw players actually with a kicking for goal coach next to them, showing them the right techniques one on one ?
    Bring back the biff

  6. #96
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Dogsville
    Posts
    12,817
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Tom Boyd 2016

    Tom has a lot going on with his action. Everything discussed above, shoulders, head position, area of the foot the ball lands, being balanced when you walk in, where you hold the ball, how high the drop is, where you are mentally perceiving the ball is going to go are all contributing factors. He doesn't actually look like he's going back far enough as he sets up, but that may be his thing. No doubt about it though his timing is off which affects a number of components from the last step to when he releases it to where and when the ball hits the boot.

    It's definitely confidence and no doubt its down when kicking for goal. It may be nerves, he can't keep everything tucked away and he knows he is expected to nail em and when you don't drill them consecutively it becomes more of a mental challenge.
    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

  7. #97
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    939
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Tom Boyd 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by jeemak View Post
    A lot depends on which part of the foot the ball makes contact with. For a right foot player right to left swing can be more prevalent if the footy comes off the outside of the boot. Off the instep it's more likely to go left to right.

    i haven't watched closely enough to see whether he points his toes to the left exposing the outside of the boot, it might be a simple matter of working on that - plus he needs to drop the ball closer to his boot.
    How many years and kicks does it take to work that out, seriously? We learned we could bend a torp to the left by kicking with the outside of the right boot in the under 11's at Wembley Park.

    You want it go straight, you need a vertically plumb kicking motion, and guide the drop on to the centre of the boot, and follow though with the kicking action dead in front. Its not rocket surgery.

  8. #98
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    sydenham
    Posts
    12,954
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Tom Boyd 2016

    Rocket surgery ?? ;-)
    Bring back the biff

  9. #99
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    10,765
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Tom Boyd 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by ledge View Post
    Rocket surgery ?? ;-)
    Very hard. Especially when the rocket's in flight

  10. #100
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Dogsville
    Posts
    12,817
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Tom Boyd 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by ledge View Post
    Rocket surgery ?? ;-)
    Love it!
    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

  11. #101
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    32,460
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Tom Boyd 2016

    Don't want to argue the point, but Tom is actually an excellent goal kicker, in play and set shot:

    2012 & 2013: TAC he kicked 71.25 (73%)
    2014: (GWS) 8.3 (73%)
    2015: AFL 16.6 (73%) & VFL 14.6 (70%)
    2016: 5.3 (3 games)

    4 year average 72% - Tony Lockett career averaged 69.74%
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

  12. #102
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Sunshine
    Posts
    6,270
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Tom Boyd 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogtragic View Post
    Don't want to argue the point, but Tom is actually an excellent goal kicker, in play and set shot:

    2012 & 2013: TAC he kicked 71.25 (73%)
    2014: (GWS) 8.3 (73%)
    2015: AFL 16.6 (73%) & VFL 14.6 (70%)
    2016: 5.3 (3 games)

    4 year average 72% - Tony Lockett career averaged 69.74%
    I like it BT....but the asterix on this season is that he's kicked also kicked 1 on the full and 1 that went nowhere for no score. He isn't kicking well at the moment - but agree that historically he has been a solid kick at goal.

  13. #103
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    32,460
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Tom Boyd 2016

    No scores don't factor into Lockett or Dunstall's percentage accuracy either to be fair. 73% accuracy over 4 years in three competitions, with three clubs is absolutely elite. 3 games into the season so far and he's also been rucking more and would be heavier in the legs - isn't worth too much worry for me and reinventing his technique seems a little over the top only from my perspective. For what it's worth, his kick from the boundary on the weekend went through the middle despite the goal umpire not paying it. I didn't see a touched all clear so I assume he was just robbed.
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

  14. #104
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Wherever the dogs are playing
    Posts
    61,257
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Tom Boyd 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogtragic View Post
    . For what it's worth, his kick from the boundary on the weekend went through the middle despite the goal umpire not paying it. I didn't see a touched all clear so I assume he was just robbed.
    Is this true?
    FFC: Established 1883

    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

  15. #105
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Surf Coast
    Posts
    5,466
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Tom Boyd 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Is this true?
    Posted about this earlier, we thought it was a goal at but they never showed a replay.
    If it did it is a shocking mistake in a 3 point ball game.
    It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •