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Re: Dustin Martin
Can he be sacked and picked up in the PSD on a basic contract?
Surely his current deal has behavioural clauses within it that can be invoked.
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Re: Dustin Martin
Originally Posted by
Go_Dogs
If the AFL and/or Richmond stand for anything, this should result in a significant sanction. I don't know what a 'significant sanction' equates to in AFL circles, but if the AFL are serious about issues relating to violence against women, alcohol abuse and whatever the reference to 'continually going in and out of the bathroom' is, then something big needs to happen.
HAHAHAHA.
The AFL is only serious about women's issues when it can work to the betterment of their #brand. Nothing the AFL does pisses me off more than the lip service to women in the game than we see in the pink washing of the MCG every year as if it means anything to them beyond a helicopter photo and a hashtag.
If they want to be an amoral entity and leave disciplining of social issues up to the clubs and/or the police then that's fine! But how dare they continue to pick and choose their battles as if they are a political party.
With that in mind, if the AFL's form line is anything to go by, if he abused the woman then "Dusty's got his problems to work through, we all know that, but he's just focusing on helping the boys on the field in 2016", if he did it while pissed it'll make some great Footy Show "banter" in about 5 years, but if he did it on DRUGSEVILDRUGS then he might actually be hanged on the steps of AFL house.
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Re: Dustin Martin
The only piece left in this scenario is for Sam Newman to come out and say what an overreaction this has all been and Martin is only being criticised because he's a footballer.
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Re: Dustin Martin
Dustin was just a goose no more
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Acted like a goose ... Way to hit him with both barrels Brendon
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Re: Dustin Martin
Nick Stevens to act as a character witness?
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Now after much backlash through social media etc,
RICHMOND has belatedly taken a much stronger public stance after star Dustin Martin allegedly threatened a woman in a drunken incident.
Tigers chief executive Brendon Gale said in a statement that the Saturday night incident was very serious and it demands a thorough investigation.
He said Richmond is incredibly disappointed in Martin, who has apologised to the woman.
Earlier on Tuesday, club legend Kevin Bartlett demanded that Richmond ban Martin for 12 months and he make a $50,000 donation to an appropriate charity.
On Monday, Tigers football manager Dan Richardson had called the incident a hiccup.
Richmond is working with the AFL in investigating the matter and the club will make an announcement by the end of the week on what action they will take against Martin.
"This is a very serious matter that requires a thorough investigation and we are working with the AFL to ensure we have all the facts before us," Gale said.
"I want to be clear that any threat of physical violence against a woman - or any member of the public for that matter - is completely unacceptable.
"Dustin is disappointed in his behaviour and we are incredibly disappointed in Dustin."
AFL said they will help investigate the matter - maybe Telliar can give Martin some pointers on how to stretch this out.
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Re: Dustin Martin
Originally Posted by
Scraggers
Acted like a goose ... Way to hit him with both barrels Brendon
Ok the real statement
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Re: Dustin Martin
I want to be as fair as I can but as a minimum a 4 week sanction from the home and away season needs to be the starting point. The more I read about it I think a better outcome is 6 weeks. If it's more than that I'd support it but I'm trying to work out a penalty that the AFL and Richmond could work towards.
It then becomes a huge starting point for any other acts of violence against women.
Also, is there any reason why a police charge couldn't be made? He's threatened harm and has acknowledged that.
The guy who assaulted that lady in Freo got 9 months in the big house didn't he?
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Originally Posted by
GVGjr
I want to be as fair as I can but as a minimum a 4 week sanction from the home and away season needs to be the starting point. The more I read about it I think a better outcome is 6 weeks. If it's more than that I'd support it but I'm trying to work out a penalty that the AFL and Richmond could work towards.
It then becomes a huge starting point for any other acts of violence against women.
Also, is there any reason why a police charge couldn't be made? He's threatened harm and has acknowledged that.
The guy who assaulted that lady in Freo got 9 months in the big house didn't he?
If the victim were a man, would it make it anymore right?
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Originally Posted by
Ghost Dog
Why does it always have to be about acts of violence against women? Why can't it just be about acts of violence? If the victim were a man, would it make it anymore right?
I agree with what you are saying ... any threat of violence against a man or woman is wrong; but with the prevalence of domestic violence predominantly against women (because sometimes men are victims too) and the fact that we are trying to champion women within our sport, but especially as we have our own ambassador Marcus Bontempelli and other AFL superstars spruiking THE LINE aimed at tackling the issue of violence against women; Martin needs to be made an example.
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Re: Dustin Martin
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
The guy who assaulted that lady in Freo got 9 months in the big house didn't he?
He can't hit up Riewoldt lace-out though
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Re: Dustin Martin
Richmond must be planning a strategy to exit him out of the club now surely! I guess the problem is that when he was on the market recently no one wanted to pay his asking price.
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Re: Dustin Martin
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
I want to be as fair as I can but as a minimum a 4 week sanction from the home and away season needs to be the starting point. The more I read about it I think a better outcome is 6 weeks. If it's more than that I'd support it but I'm trying to work out a penalty that the AFL and Richmond could work towards.
It then becomes a huge starting point for any other acts of violence against women.
Also, is there any reason why a police charge couldn't be made? He's threatened harm and has acknowledged that.
The guy who assaulted that lady in Freo got 9 months in the big house didn't he?
Yes something like that.
Will criminal charges be laid against Martin? It is a serious threat.
I agree with Bartlett stating that he should receive a 12 month ban. Doubt this will happen and he will end up doing some community service with a ban of 4 to 6 matches to commence the season.
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Re: Dustin Martin
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
I want to be as fair as I can but as a minimum a 4 week sanction from the home and away season needs to be the starting point. The more I read about it I think a better outcome is 6 weeks. If it's more than that I'd support it but I'm trying to work out a penalty that the AFL and Richmond could work towards.
It then becomes a huge starting point for any other acts of violence against women.
Also, is there any reason why a police charge couldn't be made? He's threatened harm and has acknowledged that.
The guy who assaulted that lady in Freo got 9 months in the big house didn't he?
The Freo guy also assaulted/resisted Police on apprehension and had other matters.
In relation to Police action, you need the cooperation of the victim in order for the matter to be further investigated.
If an independent witness were to assist Police there are some offences against Statute that could be considered (Use threatening words/behave in a riotous/offensive manner etc).