The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

[bulldogtragic]

In: pick 50, 2017 Norf 3rd rounder, 2017 Saints 5th rounder
Out: Hrovat, Stevens, pick 61, 2017 Dogs 3rd rounder, 2017 Dogs 4th rounder

The 5th and 4th round swaps next year most likely won't even be used by either club. Not great but better than nothing - player retention and drafting is our priority as it should be.

Not much better than nothing as Stevens/Hrovat tied up. Koby is a nil all draw. Hrovat is maybe a 10 pick upgrade in the third round next year. Bugger all.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

I think Cloke might surprise a few people

[Bulldog Joe]

Not sure why so many feel that we have performed poorly in the trade.

What have we done.

We have opened up 3 lists spots that we needed and given fringe players a chance to continue their career elsewhere.
We have added Travis Cloke for the loss of Joel Hamling.

We have improved our starting draft position from 18, 40, 58 to 18, 26, 51.

I think we are well placed.

[Remi Moses]

Interesting, in that people were prepared to drive hamling back to W.A six months back.
Not sure what plan b after Hurley was meant to be .

[Ozza]

Interesting, in that people were prepared to drive hamling back to W.A six months back.
Not sure what plan b after Hurley was meant to be .

Not sure who the people wanting to drive Hamling back to WA were. I don't recall much negativity at all regarding Hamling - and think he is a pretty big loss.

[G-Mo77]

Interesting, in that people were prepared to drive hamling back to W.A six months back.
Not sure what plan b after Hurley was meant to be .

And showed he could play when it really counted. Huge loss for us and very little return for him.

[Remi Moses]

I think Cloke might surprise a few people

He's got a point to prove .

[bornadog]

Not sure why so many feel that we have performed poorly in the trade.

What have we done.

We have opened up 3 lists spots that we needed and given fringe players a chance to continue their career elsewhere.
We have added Travis Cloke for the loss of Joel Hamling.

We have improved our starting draft position from 18, 40, 58 to 18, 26, 51.

I think we are well placed.

I am happy with what we have done:

Start of trade week we had 18, 40 and 3 x 4th rounders and end up with 18 26 and 50 as well as Cloke, and future picks.

* Hamling a loss - 23 game player who only came good towards the end of Season. Still has some doubts on the mental side of his game.

* Stevens - played probably 3 good games in four seasons, averaging only 20 disposals per game

* Hrovat - lots of potential, but in 4 seasons played 30 games

[Sedat]

Not much better than nothing as Stevens/Hrovat tied up. Koby is a nil all draw. Hrovat is maybe a 10 pick upgrade in the third round next year. Bugger all.

If 4th and 5th round picks are used next year on live picks I agree they are disappointing trades. But with only around 70 live picks in the ND these late picks tend to get used on rookie upgrades. So in real terms we get an 11 pick upgrade in the 3rd round on Stevens this year and an 8-12 pick upgrade in the 3rd round on Hrovat next year. Not a disaster for a couple of fringe players not under contract and likely delist candidates in 12 months time had they been under contract.

[Remi Moses]

And showed he could play when it really counted. Huge loss for us and very little return for him.

What hand did the club have ? Played the " homesick card" . Would he have played if Adams was fit ?

[Ozza]

What hand did the club have ? Played the " homesick card" . Would he have played if Adams was fit ?

Yes, he'd have been playing in front of Fletch.
Not many players going around have the athleticism to play on all of Cyril Rioli, Buddy Franklin, Josh Kennedy and Jeremy Cameron at stages during the one finals series.

[G-Mo77]

What hand did the club have ? Played the " homesick card" . Would he have played if Adams was fit ?

Not sure on Adams, moot point though. Hamling did play and played really well. His best fit our system perfectly.

I'm not blaming the club for the return for Hamling. I've said many times on here we were over a barrel. Saying it's a win/win trade is completely laughable.

[Remi Moses]

Yes, he'd have been playing in front of Fletch.
Not many players going around have the athleticism to play on all of Cyril Rioli, Buddy Franklin, Josh Kennedy and Jeremy Cameron at stages during the one finals series.

Nobody actually plays on anyone now , as they just roll off opponents with third ups . He was out of contract and they'd finished near the bottom. No hand to play . I'm disappointed he's gone, but he wanted out .
Stevens couldn't get a game with all our injuries, and Hrovat couldn't get a crack at it.We also have a few coming out of contract in the next 12 to 24 months . J.J is a big signature for next season

[Remi Moses]

Not sure on Adams, moot point though. Hamling did play and played really well. His best fit our system perfectly.

I'm not blaming the club for the return for Hamling. I've said many times on here we were over a barrel. Saying it's a win/win trade is completely laughable.

We were always going to get a pick in the 30's for Hamling . They would never give up a first for him

[G-Mo77]

We were always going to get a pick in the 30's for Hamling . They would never give up a first for him

I'm pretty sure most were aware it's all we were going to get for him. Regardless it's a kick in the teeth. Lets hope Collins comes of age in 2017. We're going to need him.