Welsh

[Sockeye Salmon]

I thought no-one else saw that.

New direction. What if he has a stinker? He seems solid but was he ever the main forward at Adelaide. They seemed to just chuck whoever down there if Walsh and Riccuto were injured and they were still successful. Although they weren't high scoring in most games they did hand a few thrashings out per season which might dispel the 'what could he do in an attacking team' argument.

We know what Welsh can do. If his first three games are stinkers you persevere with him because he's capable. Over the next 2-3 years he will roughly do the same thing he was doing in Adelaide, don't expect more, he won't.

With rookies, you don't know what they can do and sometimes (very rarely) you think 'Wow!'.

Although just because a rookie has a rough start doesn't mean they're crap - Mitch Hahn and Steve Kretiuk both had horrible starts (Mitch dropped an uncontested mark within 5 seconds of being on the ground).

[BulldogBelle]

We need his first game to be a ripper for us

I would think that playing against his old side first up might give him that extra bit of determination to have a great game.

[hujsh]

We know what Welsh can do. If his first three games are stinkers you persevere with him because he's capable. Over the next 2-3 years he will roughly do the same thing he was doing in Adelaide, don't expect more, he won't.

With rookies, you don't know what they can do and sometimes (very rarely) you think 'Wow!'.

Although just because a rookie has a rough start doesn't mean they're crap - Mitch Hahn and Steve Kretiuk both had horrible starts (Mitch dropped an uncontested mark within 5 seconds of being on the ground).

When you say rookie do you mean rookie list or a first year player. I am surprised if Hahn was a rookie

[Sockeye Salmon]

When you say rookie do you mean rookie list or a first year player. I am surprised if Hahn was a rookie

? Was a rookie.

Hahn was once a rookie. His first game was something like no touches and 2 clangers or something silly like that. It was v Geelong @ Telstra Dome and probably the game Eagleton kicked 7.

[hujsh]

? Was a rookie.

Hahn was once a rookie. His first game was something like no touches and 2 clangers or something silly like that. It was v Geelong @ Telstra Dome and probably the game Eagleton kicked 7.

So he was on the rookie list?

[soupman]

No Hahn was never on any rookie list.

He was however a rookie in the sense that he was new to the league and thus playing his "rookie" season ie. first season. So rookie here is being used to say he was at the beginning of his career and new.