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07-07-2016, 10:59 PM
#106
Re: Lin Jong Tours Collingwood's Facilities
Originally Posted by
Bulldog4life
Bomber Thompson said at Geelong most players took payments under what they were worth as they wanted to stay together and win premierships
Did this include fringe players too?
Pretty easy for one of their top 12-15 players to get $50k under value whilst playing in a gun team. Different story if you are getting $100k less than what's available on the open market.. and playing VFL.
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07-07-2016, 11:02 PM
#107
Re: Lin Jong Tours Collingwood's Facilities
Originally Posted by
Mantis
Did this include fringe players too?
Pretty easy for one of their top 12-15 players to get $50k under value whilst playing in a gun team. Different story if you are getting $100k less than what's available on the open market.. and playing VFL.
Correct.
That's why years of consistent drafting is important. Guys like Jong are replaced easily enough.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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07-07-2016, 11:04 PM
#108
Re: Lin Jong Tours Collingwood's Facilities
Lin Jong needs to get another manager. No decent manager would organise a tour of another Melbourne team facilities for a Melbourne based player.
Surely the commonsense approach would be for his manager to invite Jong and Buckley to his office and give both of them the chance to talk about 2017 and beyond. Touring another facility is just stupid.
I'm half tempted to post something on Twitter advising Jong not worry about finding another club, his first priority is to find a decent manager.
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07-07-2016, 11:06 PM
#109
Re: Lin Jong Tours Collingwood's Facilities
Originally Posted by
Mantis
Did this include fringe players too?
Pretty easy for one of their top 12-15 players to get $50k under value whilst playing in a gun team. Different story if you are getting $100k less than what's available on the open market.. and playing VFL.
Not sure. He said it on AFL360 Wed nite. Best 22 I presumed
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07-07-2016, 11:26 PM
#110
Re: Lin Jong Tours Collingwood's Facilities
Originally Posted by
Bulldog4life
Not sure. He said it on AFL360 Wed nite. Best 22 I presumed
It's an easy decision for best 22 players isn't it.
But players like Callan, Playfair, Gardiner, Prismall, D.Johnson, Djerrkura & Mumford all departed through their goldern era for more opportunity & no doubt more $$. All were fringe players who could have stayed and battled for the last few spots in the team, but money talks and when the best 15 are getting paid handsomely there isn't much left for the rest.
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07-07-2016, 11:50 PM
#111
Re: Lin Jong Tours Collingwood's Facilities
Jong, Stevens and our second round selection for Jack Watts and Melbourne's third round?
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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07-07-2016, 11:53 PM
#112
Re: Lin Jong Tours Collingwood's Facilities
Originally Posted by
jeemak
Jong, Stevens and our second round selection for Jack Watts and Melbourne's third round?
Watts is signing a new deal, I think.
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07-07-2016, 11:54 PM
#113
Re: Lin Jong Tours Collingwood's Facilities
if we could place Jong and Stevens's effort into Watts I'd do it .
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08-07-2016, 12:30 AM
#114
Re: Lin Jong Tours Collingwood's Facilities
Our list needs outside polish. Watts is excellent in that area and his attitude is improving.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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08-07-2016, 10:06 AM
#115
Re: Lin Jong Tours Collingwood's Facilities
Originally Posted by
Mantis
It's an easy decision for best 22 players isn't it.
But players like Callan, Playfair, Gardiner, Prismall, D.Johnson, Djerrkura & Mumford all departed through their goldern era for more opportunity & no doubt more $$. All were fringe players who could have stayed and battled for the last few spots in the team, but money talks and when the best 15 are getting paid handsomely there isn't much left for the rest.
I think Mumford's the exception there. Pretty sure he became their no1 ruck before he left but they couldn't pay him what he wanted.
The rest were certainly fringe.
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08-07-2016, 10:21 AM
#116
Re: Lin Jong Tours Collingwood's Facilities
Originally Posted by
hujsh
I think Mumford's the exception there. Pretty sure he became their no1 ruck before he left but they couldn't pay him what he wanted.
The rest were certainly fringe.
Ottens was still the main man until the end of 2011.. Mumford left at the end of 2009.
Mumford played pretty much all of 2009, but was dropped just before the finals when Ottens returned to the team from a long term injury.
As explained there was a big difference in what Geel & Syd were willing to pay.
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08-07-2016, 12:26 PM
#117
Re: Lin Jong Tours Collingwood's Facilities
We should all get behind Jong this week , he is playing so obviously the club has no problem with it and cheering him on Will make him feel the love rather than berating him for something he might not even do ..
I don't want us to lower to the Collingwood supporters and what they did with Cloke when rumours were abound and didn't end up being true.
Let's make it hard for him to leave emotionally at least .
Bring back the biff
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08-07-2016, 12:53 PM
#118
Re: Lin Jong Tours Collingwood's Facilities
Shave Jack Watt's head, make him live in Sunshine, with Barry Hall as his housemate and early morning training with Matt Boyd.
Then I would be prepared to let him into our club.
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08-07-2016, 03:51 PM
#119
Re: Lin Jong Tours Collingwood's Facilities
Watts is at his peak as a trading commodity surely? He's having the one half decent year of his career-the one you look back at and say "I forgot Jack Watts kicked 45 goals in 2016"
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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08-07-2016, 04:40 PM
#120
Re: Lin Jong Tours Collingwood's Facilities
One silver lining of Lin touring the pies facility, it makes the opening round blockbuster against the Pies idea a more tantalising prospect.
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