Lin Jong Weighing Up His Options

[bulldogtragic]

AFL.com.au reporting that Lin wants a 'guarantee' of senior footy. GCS list manager today has confirmed they've met with Lin & his manager and have strong interest.

[bornadog]

Guarantee? Got to work for your position.

[LostDoggy]

I think the headline was misleading to the article, but honestly almost no one is guaranteed a spot in the side? Especially not a fringe player.....

[hujsh]

It probably would be a win win for Lin to go to GC.

It may be seen as a loss for us in the future as I can see him becoming a very good player once there but he doesn't seem to be likely to get the opportunities he'd need to develop as a player if he stayed here.

GC need guys like Lin and seem to have a surplus of picks so Lin gets what he wants, has an opportunity to develop, gives GC something they need and we should get something of value in return.

With guys coming though like Webb who can play Jong's role but use the ball better we shouldn't feel his loss too much. Jong's point of difference was his pace but he has rarely utilized it since the start of last year, often acting as the first or second player in the handball chain and rarely using the ball well once he gets it.

I'd be happy to keep him but it might be better for all involved if he goes. Guess it depends on the importance of the family/home factor on his performance/happiness though.

[bulldogtragic]

Guarantee? Got to work for your position.

I think the headline was misleading to the article, but honestly almost no one is guaranteed a spot in the side? Especially not a fringe player.....

The only guarantee he's going to get about getting games is from GCS. That guarantee also comes with guaranteed ongoing failure as a club. Double edged sword.

[Topdog]

With GC having 6 picks in the top 27 we could get a very decent package for Lin

[bulldogtragic]

With GC having 6 picks in the top 27 we could get a very decent package for Lin

Yep. Maybe an upgrade from pick 18 to pick 9 (with them having 4, 6, 14 and in that scenario 18 - so they still have 4 first rounders). Or a straight pick for a second rounder of theirs: 21, 22, 24 or 27.

Hartlett has already told gcs no, so as their targets reduce down in numbers Jong's value increases.

[comrade]

Yep. Maybe an upgrade from pick 18 to pick 9 (with them having 4, 6, 14 and in that scenario 18 - so they still have 4 first rounders). Or a straight pick for a second rounder of theirs: 21, 22, 24 or 27.

Hartlett has already told gcs no, so as their targets reduce down in numbers Jong's value increases.

Jong + 18 for 3 picks in the 20s?

[hujsh]

Jong + 18 for 3 picks in the 20s?

2 would be more realistic IMO.

[comrade]

2 would be more realistic IMO.

Will come down to how many list spots they have and how much Jong's value increases as other players become unavailable.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Guarantee? Got to work for your position.

I'm guessing there is a bit of journalistic license with the 'guarantee' but. I'm sure neither Lin or his manager are naive enough to presume ANYONE has a permanently guaranteed spot in the 22. However I would not be surprised if they are asking the club where they see Lin siting in the pecking order. That is, if all things being equal and he's in form and the team has a full complement to choose from - does the club see him as likely to be in their best 22?
A fair question to ask, especially if Gold Coast were to convey to his management that they see him as best 22 on form.

[bulldogtragic]

Jong + 18 for 3 picks in the 20s?

Depends if Dal likes a top 10 kid if we could upgrade to 9. But on your point of 23, 25 & 28 with Brisbane getting 19 as a PP.

I think of him about on par with Tom Bell - That trade to Brisbane was Bell & 41 for 21 & 60. So if we move around the second/third round maybe.

Jong, 18 & 37 - for - 23, 25, 28 & 41. So GCS get Jong as well as two upgrades in the first and second rounds (23/18 & 41/37) for an extra 250 draft points. For Jong, a 5 pick upgrade into the first round and a 4 pick upgrade into the second round, GCS would part with 25 & 28.

Dogs: 23, 25, 28 & 41 (60)
GCS: 4, 6, 9, 14, 18, 21, 37 and Jong

Something like this?

[comrade]

Depends if Dal likes a top 10 kid if we could upgrade to 9. But on your point of 23, 25 & 28 with Brisbane getting 19 as a PP.

I think of him about on par with Tom Bell - That trade to Brisbane was Bell & 41 for 21 & 60. So if we move around the second/third round maybe.

Jong, 18 & 37 - for - 23, 25, 28 & 41. So GCS get Jong as well as two upgrades in the first and second rounds (23/18 & 41/37) for an extra 250 draft points. For Jong, a 5 pick upgrade into the first round and a 4 pick upgrade into the second round, GCS would part with 25 & 28.

Dogs: 23, 25, 28 & 41 (60)
GCS: 4, 6, 9, 14, 18, 21, 37 and Jong

Something like this?

I would do that in a heart beat.

[Topdog]

I would do that in a heart beat.

As would I and looking at it you'd have to say GCS would too.

As a side note where are people getting their draft orders from? GC have a different lot of picks than you guys are suggesting on the afl site
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-0...fl-draft-order

[hujsh]

Depends if Dal likes a top 10 kid if we could upgrade to 9. But on your point of 23, 25 & 28 with Brisbane getting 19 as a PP.

I think of him about on par with Tom Bell - That trade to Brisbane was Bell & 41 for 21 & 60. So if we move around the second/third round maybe.

Jong, 18 & 37 - for - 23, 25, 28 & 41. So GCS get Jong as well as two upgrades in the first and second rounds (23/18 & 41/37) for an extra 250 draft points. For Jong, a 5 pick upgrade into the first round and a 4 pick upgrade into the second round, GCS would part with 25 & 28.

Dogs: 23, 25, 28 & 41 (60)
GCS: 4, 6, 9, 14, 18, 21, 37 and Jong

Something like this?

Don't we need to use a 1st round pick this year with the 2 in 4 rule?