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01-11-2016, 10:37 PM
#151
Re: 2016 Cash Converters - Recycling Pre-Loved Players
How does the DFA process work? Do we just make an offer to a player and forego a late pick?
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01-11-2016, 10:47 PM
#152
Re: 2016 Cash Converters - Recycling Pre-Loved Players
Originally Posted by
Scraggers
How does the DFA process work? Do we just make an offer to a player and forego a late pick?
Yep. Bingo.
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01-11-2016, 11:07 PM
#153
Re: 2016 Cash Converters - Recycling Pre-Loved Players
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
Yep. Bingo.
The player then chooses to accept this offer or decline and wait for a better offer? Seems convoluted. Is there any order, rhyme or reason to the selections? i.e. Do Essendon get first selection and we get last or is it first come, first served?
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01-11-2016, 11:16 PM
#154
Re: 2016 Cash Converters - Recycling Pre-Loved Players
Originally Posted by
Scraggers
The player then chooses to accept this offer or decline and wait for a better offer? Seems convoluted. Is there any order, rhyme or reason to the selections? i.e. Do Essendon get first selection and we get last or is it first come, first served?
I believe that once a DFA and a club agree to terms then the player can join the club for a back ended draft pick providing the team still maintains 3 National draft selections. In our example a DFA could be signed for pick 70 leaving us picks 18, 26 and 50 at the National draft.
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01-11-2016, 11:40 PM
#155
Re: 2016 Cash Converters - Recycling Pre-Loved Players
Originally Posted by
Scraggers
The player then chooses to accept this offer or decline and wait for a better offer? Seems convoluted. Is there any order, rhyme or reason to the selections? i.e. Do Essendon get first selection and we get last or is it first come, first served?
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
I believe that once a DFA and a club agree to terms then the player can join the club for a back ended draft pick providing the team still maintains 3 National draft selections. In our example a DFA could be signed for pick 70 leaving us picks 18, 26 and 50 at the National draft.
Yep that's my understanding too. It's not so much contrived/convoluted as all other 17 clubs can pitch to the player in an open marketplace and most delisted fee agents will not be selected in any event. But more will make it to a new home (especially the home of their choosing) than through the old PSD system. In our case this year it's pick 70 or a DFA of a player who agrees to come to us.
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02-11-2016, 12:55 AM
#156
Re: 2016 Cash Converters - Recycling Pre-Loved Players
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
I believe that once a DFA and a club agree to terms then the player can join the club for a back ended draft pick providing the team still maintains 3 National draft selections. In our example a DFA could be signed for pick 70 leaving us picks 18, 26 and 50 at the National draft.
Essentially right, except there is no draft pick allocated to the player. They are essentially a free agent in the same way that Daniel Wells was a free agent this year - the club taking him only gives up salary and a list space - but with the difference being their previous club has no right to the player, nor receives compensation.
We don't 'use' a draft pick on them, but forego our last pick because we have filled the spot already.
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02-11-2016, 11:54 AM
#157
Re: 2016 Cash Converters - Recycling Pre-Loved Players
TALENTED young Greater Western Sydney onballer Jake Barrett is available as a free agent after being delisted by the Giants.
However the 20-year-old, who played in the club's' NEAFL premiership this season, is likely to be re-drafted as a rookie by the Giants if another team doesn't come knocking.
The cousin of Hawthorn star Luke Breust has been a consistent performer in the NEAFL, winning the inside ball and contested possessions, but he has not been able to break into the star-studded Giants midfield.
Barrett played has one AFL game, in the final round of 2015, where he came on as a substitute and picked up seven disposals, and played in the NAB Challenge series in the past two seasons.
The Temora product has played for three seasons at that level after the Giants added him to their list as a NSW-ACT priority selection in 2013.
With a rugby league background, Barrett is a strong tackler and is still held in high esteem at the Giants, who have to cut back their list as part of their establishment rules.
The delisted free agency period opened for a week on Tuesday with the first period ending on November 8.
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02-11-2016, 12:04 PM
#158
Re: 2016 Cash Converters - Recycling Pre-Loved Players
Lucky Luke Breust's cousin was uncovered by the GWS Academy. How would he have ever found AFL?
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02-11-2016, 04:32 PM
#159
Re: 2016 Cash Converters - Recycling Pre-Loved Players
Originally Posted by
Rocco Jones
We are well and truly in premiership contention.
In contention? We are reigning premiers!
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02-11-2016, 04:44 PM
#160
Re: 2016 Cash Converters - Recycling Pre-Loved Players
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
Do we not have an issue with being a bit short on key position defenders or a support ruckman? Did we not lose some depth with the loss of Hamling, Stevens and Hrovat which of course we now have Cloke in the positive column?
I look at our playing list and see opportunities to improve and I don't buy that it's not required.
You missed the bit where I said O'Shea is fine?
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02-11-2016, 05:47 PM
#161
Re: 2016 Cash Converters - Recycling Pre-Loved Players
Originally Posted by
comrade
Lucky Luke Breust's cousin was uncovered by the GWS Academy. How would he have ever found AFL?
Yep. That's a huge piece of luck.
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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08-11-2016, 10:46 AM
#162
Re: 2016 Cash Converters - Recycling Pre-Loved Players
Ricky Henderson expected to join the hawks.
Michael Barlow has met with the Suns.
Xavier Richards and Josh Green have met with Essendon.
Overall very little action with the delisted free agents. Looking like most will have to wait until the rookie draft to see if they will get another chance.
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08-11-2016, 10:54 AM
#163
Re: 2016 Cash Converters - Recycling Pre-Loved Players
Originally Posted by
Axe Man
Ricky Henderson expected to join the hawks.
Michael Barlow has met with the Suns.
Xavier Richards and Josh Green have met with Essendon.
Overall very little action with the delisted free agents. Looking like most will have to wait until the rookie draft to see if they will get another chance.
It seems the clubs (for the most part) are 'waging the dog' by almost all universally holding off on DFAs thereby forcing them into the rookie draft and using the rookie draft as not only an exercise of selecting raw kids, but getting ready made depth on the cheap and off the primary list. It seems to be artificially changing the value down on these guys which is good for clubs.
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08-11-2016, 11:55 AM
#164
Re: 2016 Cash Converters - Recycling Pre-Loved Players
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
It seems the clubs (for the most part) are 'waging the dog' by almost all universally holding off on DFAs thereby forcing them into the rookie draft and using the rookie draft as not only an exercise of selecting raw kids, but getting ready made depth on the cheap and off the primary list. It seems to be artificially changing the value down on these guys which is good for clubs.
Probably part of the reason 2017 will likely be the last year for the rookie list.
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08-11-2016, 02:15 PM
#165
Re: 2016 Cash Converters - Recycling Pre-Loved Players
Henry Schade delisted, we were interested in him 2 years ago.
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